Low Profile vs Standard Tires - Durability?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Oct 9, 2004.

  1. Nomen Nescio

    Nomen Nescio Guest

    Cars of the 50s used the equivilant of -90 profile, almost round in cross
    section. In those days, most tires were bias ply and 20,000 miles was
    considered pretty average durability.

    The VW Rabbit was equipped with slightly more oval tires, usually -80
    radials. Typically, tires were good for 60,000 miles on the fronts and
    100,000 on the rears. This was very a commendable improvement. The fronts
    wore out first because of higher weight, braking forces, and higher slip
    angles in turns than the rears. If the tires were rotated, 80,000 miles in
    mixed city and highway mileage was overall achievable with economy radials.

    Now we are in the age of -45 and lower profiles yet. What is the
    experience with these low, but wide tires. Are they proving to be as
    durable as the -80 radials of 25 years ago?
     
    Nomen Nescio, Oct 9, 2004
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    Brad and Mia Guest

    Durable. Yeah. But the ride can be the shits on anything less that 40s.
    80,000 miles? No way. Maybe 30,000. But it's a good 30. :)

    Brad
     
    Brad and Mia, Oct 9, 2004
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    Dave Gower Guest

    I know that among Focus owners there are complaints about the 50-series
    tires on some sportier models. They handle well but tend to break in
    potholes. Apparently it is quite common for Ford dealers in places like New
    York City to recommend that owners replace them with the regular 60 series
    tires on smaller rims (15 inch vs. 16).

    Personally I think that all cars intended for regular real-world use should
    be available with 70 series tires. To their credit, DC offers this on the
    Neon, as does Honda on the Civic, but on most car models only offer the
    sportier tires. Even the new Kia Spectra5 pushed 50-series donuts as
    standard, for Pete's sake.
     
    Dave Gower, Oct 9, 2004
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    Full_Name Guest

    Low profile tires simply will not last the same length of time that a
    similarly constructed 80 series tire will last. (heat torsional
    forces etc).

    BUT !


    They look pretty & they feel "a bit sharper" when handling.
     
    Full_Name, Oct 9, 2004
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    SgtSilicon Guest

    Life is just full of trade offs. Here is yet another set of them.
     
    SgtSilicon, Oct 9, 2004
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Mind elaborating on that? I don't know much (I know virtually
    nothing) about tire construction, but offhand I can't think of any
    reason why a lower profile wouldn't last at least as long as an
    equivalently constructed taller tire. I can imagine the sidewalls not
    lasting as long (since the torsional forces are spread across a
    shorter distance), but I've never had a tire's sidewall wear out:
    every tire I've ever replaced has been because of tread wear or road
    hazard, and I don't see how sidewall height would affect either one.

    Now, if you'd like to say that a lower profile tire will typically be
    a higher performance tire, and hence will have a softer compound so it
    will wear out more quickly, I'll agree completely. But that isn't
    inherent in "lower profile", and isn't my idea of "equivalent
    construction."
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Oct 10, 2004
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  7. I agree totally. The lower profile make the things look like the Mexicans
    across
    the border just got done with the customization job. All that's missing is
    the
    dingle balls.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Oct 10, 2004
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    Ted Azito Guest

    I don't think the "modern" low profile tire and big wheel look that
    great. I think they look line the wheel is wearing a black sanitary
    pad for a tire. I feel like telling the dealer to send it flowers and
    a box of chocolates and I'll take it out to dinner next week.
     
    Ted Azito, Oct 16, 2004
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  9. You feel better with your racial generalization?
    The put down makes you feel superior hey?
    Can't make your point without belittling an entire race of people?

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    Just Me \Koi\, Oct 17, 2004
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    Bob Guest

    Troll
     
    Bob, Oct 17, 2004
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  11. Troll? If you meant that I am/was a troll, you are wrong. I am a regular
    here with a 2005 Dodge Magnum RT. Not a troll.

    Trolls don't normally include their webshots account when trolling now do
    they?

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    Just Me \Koi\, Oct 18, 2004
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    Bob Guest

    Well hell....... I'm sorry about that! I'll be sure and take you off my
    troll list and put you on my idiot list.
    Bob
     
    Bob, Oct 18, 2004
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    127.0.0.1 Guest


    damn, did you have to top post on this one?

    -a|ex
     
    127.0.0.1, Oct 25, 2004
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