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Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by steve, Aug 15, 2004.

  1. steve

    Bill Turner Guest

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    Probably had a car without a cup holder. You youngsters don't remember,
    but they used to make 'em that way.

    And with that, having accomplished nothing, I'm quitting this thread.

    I'll try to come visit y'all in the hospital as often as I can.
     
    Bill Turner, Sep 1, 2004
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    Art Guest

    Art, Sep 1, 2004
  3. steve

    Art Guest

    He was making a point. One that a bunch of you don't seem to understand.
    Bush hates lawyers but he hired a bunch when being interviewed over the CIA
    outing by Novak.
     
    Art, Sep 1, 2004
  4. steve

    Art Guest

    Domestic car companies used to deliver cars with scores of defects. They
    claimed that was the best they could do until faced with Japanese
    competition. Now they count defects per hundred cars. The medical industry
    is where the domestic car industry was decades ago. I'm glad to hear that
    Duke successfully treated your daughter but patients should not be relying
    on serendipity while in a hospital. Duke and government regulators found
    terrible flaws in their system after the transplant error. That might not
    seem too bad but just a few years prior, other problems were found at Duke
    that were so bad that they were removed from the list to run certain medical
    studies... an extreme sanction used because Duke failed to respond to
    several warnings about their processes. Duke promised to clean up their act
    then but apparently did not. We will never know what Duke paid in damages
    for the transplant error because it was kept confidential. Most of these
    messes are no longer public knowledge because Duke, like many hospitals,
    sneak in a binding arbitration clause with all the other papers you sign at
    admission. That way the cases never get to court and don't face much public
    scrutiny.
     
    Art, Sep 1, 2004
  5. steve

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Yes, you've made it quite clear that you can't think for yourself and
    depend on others to look out for you.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Sep 1, 2004
  6. steve

    Matt Whiting Guest

    That's OK, don't bother, you might slip and fall on the way in and sue
    the hospital. My medical care costs enough already. Please just stay
    home with your remote control and don't do anything where you might hurt
    yourself.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Sep 1, 2004
  7. steve

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Matt Whiting, Sep 1, 2004
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    alfee Guest

    Lawsuits like that are so frivolous....I really hope that someone does
    something to end them.

    It's no one's fault but your own if you eat until you get sick and
    find yourself overweight.
     
    alfee, Sep 1, 2004
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    Full_Name Guest

    Good LORD Matt !

    Just What are you encouraging?

    Bill will get repetitive strain injury in his thumb from the remote,
    TV news induced Post Traumatic Stress Disorder,
    onset of obesity and a propensity for diabetes from the food the TV
    commercials are "forcing" him to consume, back strain from trying to
    get off his ass to go to the refrigerator, etc, etc, etc.....

    Quick, someone call that man a Lawyer !
     
    Full_Name, Sep 2, 2004
  10. LOL!

    What about the heart attack he gets when he try's dialing the lawyer?

    The problem with society today is, every wants to blame everyone else!

    I've had cars without cup holders, and I've never put cups of hot coffee
    between my legs! My nuts were as important to me then, as they are to me
    now!

    Refinish King
     
    Refinish King, Sep 2, 2004
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    OK, Bill you're a Lawyer! Actually, I hadn't thought of that before,
    but I'll bet he IS a lawyer. That would explain is POV.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Sep 2, 2004
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    Art Guest

    Art, Sep 2, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    No - they just loudly complain about the malpractice insurance
    premiums. So you're telling me that a good physician is not concerned
    about being sued for something that is not his/her fault when real world
    says they should be? You're FOS.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 2, 2004
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    Geoff Guest

    LOL!

    --Geoff
     
    Geoff, Sep 2, 2004
  15. steve

    Full_Name Guest

    Lawsuits don't scare Good MD's. Jury's full of incompetent morons do.

    You have no doubt noticed that America is the land of doctors with sky
    high malpractice insurance premiums.

    But, have you also noticed that the US is also the land where the put
    the determination of financial compensation in the hands of complete
    idiots?

    What other civilized country does that? If you can't see that
    connection there is little else that I can do to explain my position.

    PS The Trailer park & the Springer show isn't actually the real world.
    Oh also, just a FYI that Hilton girl's TV show isn't the "real world
    either" A good doctor screens and educates his patients before he
    ever lifts a scalpel.

    PPS. Don't take it so personally, it's just an opinion.
     
    Full_Name, Sep 2, 2004
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    Full_Name Guest

    A little informational tidbit:
    http://sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2004/08/31/aids_040831.html

    HIV patients may carry more than 1 strain, scientists warn
    Last Updated Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:32:00 EDT
    MONTREAL - HIV patients may carry more than one strain of the virus,
    say scientists who now warn that even partners who are both infected
    should practise safe sex.

    A man who got a drug-resistant form of the virus was re-infected 10
    months later with another HIV strain, the Montreal researchers found
    in a case study published in the August issue of the journal AIDS.

    They estimate that three to four per cent of newly infected HIV
    patients may have a secondary infection, or superinfection, that could
    spread to their partners.

    "We used to say to couples who are both HIV-positive, you don't have
    to take precautions," said Dr. Mark Wainberg, director of the McGill
    AIDS Centre, which participated in the study. "Now I think we have to
    be a little bit more cautious."

    He and colleagues long suspected a person could harbour two different
    forms of HIV. They proved it by identifying and cloning the viruses
    from one man and his partner.

    "This is the first time we have observed this kind of case study in
    Canada," said Wainberg, adding that there were simultaneous, similar
    reports from the United States and Switzerland.

    "We know that this is something that is taking place now on a daily,
    widespread basis."

    Superinfections will set back research, Wainberg said, making the
    disease much tougher to treat.

    "This has to make it harder for us to develop a protective vaccine."
    does the quarantine notion sound so crazy in this context?

    Just something that made me go Hmmm......
     
    Full_Name, Sep 2, 2004
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    Jeff George Guest

    If you think the citizens of the U.S. are any match for the U.S.
    Government because they are allowed to have pea shooters compared to
    the government's tanks then you are sadly delusional.

    --

    Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Look upon me and despair, for
    I bring forth pestilence and famine, fear and piss poor Sopranos
    episodes, even unto the tenth generation. For lo, I have great power
    and great hunger, and hang you on hooks in high places. Two score less
    four years ago my Father brought forth in this land a new Being,
    conceived in Morality, and dedicated to the proposition that no man
    can be my equal. I am the Alpha and Omega, verily I am the Eggman.
    Goob goob goo joob
     
    Jeff George, Sep 2, 2004
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    Jeff George Guest

    And the right wingers still go around calling people "commies". It's
    funny.

    --

    Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Look upon me and despair, for
    I bring forth pestilence and famine, fear and piss poor Sopranos
    episodes, even unto the tenth generation. For lo, I have great power
    and great hunger, and hang you on hooks in high places. Two score less
    four years ago my Father brought forth in this land a new Being,
    conceived in Morality, and dedicated to the proposition that no man
    can be my equal. I am the Alpha and Omega, verily I am the Eggman.
    Goob goob goo joob
     
    Jeff George, Sep 2, 2004
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Matt Whiting, Sep 2, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    How do you separate the two (hint: you can't unless you settle as if you
    are guilty even if you aren't). Sounds like a semantics game to me.
    Jurys full of incompetent morons are *WHY* good MD's might ought to be
    scared of lawsuits.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 2, 2004
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