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Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by steve, Aug 15, 2004.

  1. steve

    Art Guest

    That is why you buy insurance.


     
    Art, Aug 27, 2004
  2. steve

    Art Guest

    Most cases are settled out of court because litigation is very expensive.
    And no one knows what the judge will do or what the jury will do. In a way
    the inherent inefficiency of the court system leads to an efficient
    settlement system.
     
    Art, Aug 27, 2004
  3. Must be one of those restrictions of freedom that Geoff likes to bleat
    about in reference to Canada.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Aug 27, 2004
  4. Not only does it take two to tango (or have sex, for that matter), but
    you've just argued for complete elimination of private gun ownership.

    Think about it.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Aug 27, 2004
  5. Indeed. But even you've heard of insurance fraud right? I mean, hey..he's
    got insurance..lets get him to get into an accident with us then we can sue
    his ass off! There're people out there that don't care about anything but
    getting money.

    In the end it's just hurting the people that pay for the services. If I get
    sued for something frivolous and they win and my insurance goes up, I'm sure
    as hell going to raise the cost of my services.
     
    Phillip Schmid, Aug 27, 2004
  6. Q: What do you call the guy who graduates last in his class at a 4th-rate
    med school?

    A: Doctor.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Aug 27, 2004
  7. Up here in Canada, too. There are doctors who've made the news for
    refusing to continue to see their patients who will not quit smoking.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Aug 27, 2004
  8. steve

    Art Guest

    If I were you I would lock myself in a bathroom and never come out. A
    friend of mine in the software business was sued for no decent reason at
    all. Even though the contract said any suit had to be in NC the guy sued
    him in California and thejudge refused to move it. My friend spent $90k on
    lawyers defending himself and the guy drops the case the day the trial is
    supposed to begin. If my friend refused the dismisssal the case would have
    continued and who knows, maybe the guy would have won. So my friend lost
    $90k out of his own pocket for no reason whatsoever and he did not have
    adequate coverage for the risk. That is life. Like I said..... lock
    yourself in a closet or bathroom and you won't get sued..... probably.
     
    Art, Aug 27, 2004
  9. That sounds pretty damn bad. I remember one of my teachers, I can't remember
    which one it is, said something like "If you haven't been in a lawsuit yet I
    would really recommend one." If I were that person I'd probably try suing to
    get the money spent back. Quite a world out there.
     
    Phillip Schmid, Aug 27, 2004
  10. steve

    Full_Name Guest


    BAH !

    Like I'm going to let things like "facts" stand in the way of me
    making a point ;-)
     
    Full_Name, Aug 28, 2004
  11. steve

    Full_Name Guest

    The one's you see on "Cops" aren't getting strip searched on camera &
    the one's they enjoy "searching" sure as hell aren't going to be
    submitted to "Cops" for their partners to see.....

    That's I'm thinking anyways. (probably wrong, but it sounds good no?)
     
    Full_Name, Aug 28, 2004
  12. steve

    Full_Name Guest

    In the UK & many other parts of the world the loser pays legal fee's.
    Including the loser who "drops" the case after initiating legal
    action. Perhaps such an approach might be adopted by the US?
     
    Full_Name, Aug 28, 2004
  13. steve

    Full_Name Guest

    Oprah made jury duty. Good enough explanation?
     
    Full_Name, Aug 28, 2004
  14. steve

    Full_Name Guest

    Science? Science? Please people let's keep religious "belief
    systems" out of a good thread.

    Science, Christian Science, Scientology, Voodoo. You name it. It's
    all just a belief system.

    (foot note). This is troll bait for the Under grads who've yet to
    critically examine that belief system
     
    Full_Name, Aug 28, 2004
  15. steve

    Full_Name Guest

    I recall Geoff was saying in an earlier post something about living in
    a Capitalist society. "scum trial lawyers" help capitalism! How?
    They take money that is being poorly utilized by insurance companies
    (government and corporate bonds) and disperse it throughout the
    society via the springer crowd.

    Look at Mike Tyson. $300 Million to 0.00 in the blink of an eye.

    Same with most of these "lawsuit lottery winners" A year or two of
    Cheap booze, cheaper women and 1 fast car and they're either organ
    donor's or back living at the trailer park. That money spurs the
    economy helping the growth of developing industries. See !? "scum
    sucking lawyers" and their "white trash" clientele are an integral
    part of the nations economy.

    For the socialists in the group it's wealth "redistribution" at it's
    most base.

    For anyone who's ever worked in the insurance field its either
    laughable or maddening. (I'm more the former)
     
    Full_Name, Aug 28, 2004
  16. steve

    Bill Putney Guest

    That's clearly a liberal cause. I heard a report just this week of a
    mother being hauled back into court being accused of smoking around her
    children in violation of a court order forbidding her to do so.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 28, 2004
  17. steve

    Bill Putney Guest

    Well for one, though you'll probably disagree, the right to keep and
    bear arms is constitutionally guaranteed. The right to spread
    communicable diseases by irresponsible behavior is not, though the
    liberals would stupidly disagree on both points.

    The ability to have sex irresponsibly does not protect myself and my
    family from criminals. My being able to own a gun does (and forget all
    the "you'll probably end up killing one of your family members by
    mistake" b.s.). You don't just take one minute (i.e. small) point of an
    issue and make policy out of it like that (unless you're a liberal).
    You have to weigh all aspects. Allowing people to own guns for
    protection does have some value (along with risks - duh). Check crime
    rates of countries that take guns out of the hands of the citizens
    before and after to see if there is a disincentive to commit certain
    crimes when the criminals know there is a possiblity, if not actuallity
    of a gun owne/user being the intended victim. Allowing infected people
    to infect others at will has no value (remember the original question
    was quarantining).

    (Take a look a the funny e-mail that someone sent me last week - I've
    pasted it below my signature. Keep in mind that it is intended as
    humor, so you can probably poke holes in it without too much trouble -
    **HOWEVER** keep in mind that for humor to be humor, there has to be
    some truth to it - and there's a lot in that one. Enjoy.)

    I agree with Geoff - on many topics you are a sensible person, but on
    this and a couple of others your brain is disengaged. I guess we all
    have our blind spots. Love ya man!

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")


    Question: How do you tell the difference between Democrats, Republicans
    and
    Southern Republicans? The answer can be found by posing the following
    question:

    You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small
    children.
    Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the
    corner,
    locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife, and charges.
    You
    are carrying a Glock .40, and you are an expert shot. You have mere
    seconds
    before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Democrat's Answer:

    Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!

    Does the man look poor or Oppressed?

    Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?

    Could we run away?

    What does my wife think?

    What about the kids?

    Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of
    his
    hand?

    What does the law say about this situation?

    Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it?

    Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does
    this
    send to society and to my children?

    Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?

    Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound
    me?

    If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while
    he
    was stabbing me?

    Should I call 9-1-1?

    Why is this street so deserted?

    We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day and make this a
    happier,
    healthier street that would discourage such behavior.

    This is all so confusing!

    I need to debate this with some friends for a few days and try to come
    to a
    consensus.


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Republican's Answer:

    BANG!


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Southern Republican's Answer:

    BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click....(sounds
    of
    reloading).

    BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click

    Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver
    Tips??"
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 28, 2004
  18. steve

    Bill Putney Guest

    It's also why landlords are constantly given advice on landlording
    forums never to rent to a lawyer, law student, or law clerk, and after
    having been a landlord a few years, I can say that that's good advice.
    Since they are not a protected class, it's probably legal too.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 28, 2004
  19. steve

    Sijuki Guest

    yeah, if they can find them. Last I remember, HIV takes a little time to
    develop, and it may take even longer to decide to get tested. So
    coincidentally someone may have sex with dozens of people in that time
    period. Do the cops just spend months tracking down everyone that this
    person had sex with to test them and arrest the bastard with HIV/AIDS who
    probably got it from the person who just found they had it themselves?
    Seriously. Except for a handful of cases I haven't heard of too many people
    getting popped to neccesitate a "all the time" reference.
     
    Sijuki, Aug 28, 2004
  20. steve

    Bill Putney Guest

    For once, I agree with you on a political matter, Art. But I have heard
    of 5 or 25 million dollar awards for ridiculous things - I don't think
    even wrongful death is awarded what some injuries are bringing - and
    that's off balance. I have to think if I had to put a dollar value on
    what my family should be awarded if someone accidentally killed me, it
    would be way less than some of these ridiculous awards.

    I think it is a case where, regrettably, society is forced to make a law
    (i.e., limit potential awards) due to common sense having fallen out the
    window to a point that everyone is suffering hugely because of it. In
    an ideal world, such limits would not have to be legislated because
    common sense judgements would be reasonable. One down-side of the
    mandated limits would be that a cookie cutter solution will not be just
    (i.e., fair) in all situations for a particular legal criteria - there
    may be actual value that will not be allowed to be considered because of
    the legal restrictions, and that will be unfortunate - but that's true
    of all laws that should not have been necessary but in fact are because
    of human stupidity that forced the law to be made to keep society
    afloat.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 28, 2004
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