Letter from a Dodge dealer

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Pete E. Kruzer, May 30, 2009.

  1. May 19, 2009
    letter to the editor
    My name is George C. Joseph. I am the sole owner of Sunshine Dodge-
    Isuzu, a family owned and operated business in Melbourne, Florida. My
    family bought and paid for this automobile franchise 35 years ago in
    1974. I am the second generation to manage this business.

    We currently employ 50+ people and before the economic slowdown we
    employed over 70 local people. We are active in the community and the
    local chamber of commerce. We deal with several dozen local vendors on
    a day to day basis and many more during a month. All depend on our
    business for part of their livelihood. We are financially strong with
    great respect in the market place and community. We have strong local
    presence and stability.

    I work every day the store is open, nine to ten hours a day. I know
    most of our customers and all our employees. Sunshine Dodge is my
    life.

    On Thursday, May 14, 2009 I was notified that my Dodge franchise, that
    we purchased, will be taken away from my family on June 9, 2009
    without compensation and given to another dealer at no cost to them.
    My new vehicle inventory consists of 125 vehicles with a financed
    balance of 3 million dollars. This inventory becomes impossible to
    sell with no factory incentives beyond June 9, 2009. Without the Dodge
    franchise we can no longer sell a new Dodge as "new," nor will we be
    able to do any warranty service work. Additionally, my Dodge parts
    inventory, (approximately $300,000.) is virtually worthless without
    the ability to perform warranty service. There is no offer from
    Chrysler to buy back the vehicles or parts inventory.

    Our facility was recently totally renovated at Chrysler's insistence,
    incurring a multi-million dollar debt in the form of a mortgage at Sun
    Trust Bank.

    HOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAN THIS HAPPEN?

    THIS IS A PRIVATE BUSINESS NOT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY

    This is beyond imagination! My business is being stolen from me
    through NO FAULT OF OUR OWN. We did NOTHING wrong.

    This atrocity will most likely force my family into bankruptcy. This
    will also cause our 50+ employees to be unemployed. How will they
    provide for their families? This is a total economic disaster.

    HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY IN THE UNITED STATES OF
    AMERICA?

    I beseech your help, and look forward to your reply. Thank you.

    Sincerely,

    George C. Joseph
    President & Owner
    Sunshine Dodge-Isuzu
     
    Pete E. Kruzer, May 30, 2009
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Wow! In an earlier thread it was stated (speculated?) by Mopar Man that
    the vehicles and parts inventory would be redistributed to other
    dealers. I further speculated that they would have to be purchased back
    and *then* distributed, but the above letter says the dealer will have
    to keep them (finish paying for them) and dispose of them on their own.

    A sad story for the owner and the nation. Too bad 50% of our citizens
    couldn't care less, and feel fine about what's going on.
     
    Bill Putney, May 30, 2009
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    Josh S Guest

    A very sad situation, one which makes me very negative towards Chrysler.
    They're being very heavy handed, there are better ways to do this.

    I heard a similar one on a trip to Oregon.
    A smaller Oregon community has both a Chrysler and a Subaru/Jeep dealer.
    The Chrysler dealer from the 1930s that is doing well is being shut
    down and the Subaru/Jeep dealer is receiving that dealerships license.
     
    Josh S, May 31, 2009
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    QX Guest

    The socialization of the US has begun.
    Welcome to the United Socialist States of America.
    They elected him, now we all suffer.
     
    QX, May 31, 2009
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    News Guest


    And what makes you think this is not a Chrysco decision?
     
    News, May 31, 2009
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    Steve Stone Guest

    I get the impression that Chrysler and GM are both doing this to reduce
    dealer competition which will increase price for the consumer and profit
    for the companies?

    Steve
     
    Steve Stone, May 31, 2009
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    MoPar Man Guest

    More profit for dealers (on a per-car basis) does not equate with more
    car sales (for the manufacturer).

    This is what puzzles me.

    Every dealership is like a huge, permanent, no-cost advertizement for
    the manufacturer.

    Take that dealership away, and you reduce the visability of your brand.
    It's like taking a billboard down. Or worst, replacing it with that of
    a competitor.

    If dealerships are hurting financially, moreso than anyone else in any
    other retail sector is hurting for the past year, then it's not making
    the news. You would think that Chrysler and GM would *NOT* have to
    resort to pulling franchises to reduce the number of dealers (ie natural
    market forces should do that by itself).

    When you look at franchises that have closed in other market sectors
    (Home Depot, Starbucks, Krispy Creme), they have closed for
    "performance" reasons. Probably not because they take business away
    from other nearby stores of the same brand.

    Home depot closed 15 stores between May and June 2008 (first time it
    ever closed a store) yet at the same time it was planning on *55 new
    stores* during 2009 (but that seems to have been reduced to about 12
    stores instead).

    There is something very odd about pulling the franchise for these GM and
    Chrysler dealerships. We're not being told the whole story.

    ------------------------
    http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE49069R20081001

    U.S. dealership closures to increase into '09: study
    Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:54pm EDT

    DETROIT (Reuters) - The number of U.S. car dealerships closing is
    expected to increase into 2009 with as many as 3,800 dealerships at risk
    of closure because of dwindling sales and tighter credit, according to a
    newly released study by Grant Thornton LLP on Wednesday.

    With U.S. light vehicle sales predicted to drop to the 13.7-million-unit
    range in 2009, the study said that about 18 percent of the total number
    of U.S. car dealerships would need to close to maintain sales per dealer
    at last year's level of about 750 units.

    "An increasing number of dealers are simply closing their doors because
    sales have plummeted, credit has dried up, the overall retail
    environment is increasingly challenging and potential investors are
    sitting on the sidelines," said Paul Melville, a partner with Grant
    Thornton LLP.

    "In addition, the domestic automakers who badly need retail
    consolidation are not spending much of their scarce capital on the
    problem because the economy is doing it for them," he said.
    --------------------------


    So here we are being told that there will be dealership closures during
    2009, but not because their franchises are going to be pulled by the
    manufacturers. The closures will be because of "the economy is doing it
    for them".


    -------------------------
    Analysts have said that U.S. carmakers need to cut U.S. dealerships --
    particularly in crowded city markets -- in order to drive more sales
    through remaining stores and free up funds for advertising and new
    investment.

    GM cut some 260 affiliated dealers last year, which took its U.S. dealer
    count to about 6,750 outlets at the start of 2008.

    Unrealistically high price demands by sellers has slowed voluntary
    consolidation, however, according to Grant Thornton.

    The deal-making environment is expected to improve in the early part of
    2009, the study said

    "Prices will come down as the weak market continues to erode franchise
    values, and as liquidity returns, we see more consolidation deals
    proceeding," Melville said.

    He added that if franchise values were to fall 20 percent, it could
    stimulate mergers and acquisitions activity.
    ----------------------------

    So in spite of having too many dealers (which we are speculating would
    lead to too much competition and price erosion) the opposite was
    happening:

    "Unrealistically high price demands by sellers has ..."

    Unrealistically high price demands by sellers?

    Does that mean despite the perception of too many dealers, that instead
    of price reductions we have instead price increases for the vehicles in
    question?

    Strange.
     
    MoPar Man, May 31, 2009
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    MoPar Man Guest

    Ok, never mind.

    They were talking about the valuations of the dealerships themselves,
    not the retail prices of the cars they're selling.

    They were clearly expecting back in October last year that weak
    dealerships would be bought by stronger ones, but that it wasn't
    happening yet because the weak dealerships were overestimating their
    value.

    While GM and Chrysler have the axe out to cut dealer numbers, Ford is
    doing no such thing:

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    http://www.trucktrend.com/features/...s_plants_to_build_ecoboost_engines/index.html

    Ford Says They Won't Close Dealers, Reopens Plant to Build EcoBoost
    Engines
    May 19, 2009
    By Scott Evans

    After a week of news revolving around dealer closures from Chrysler and
    GM, Ford is balancing things out this week with some good news. Most
    importantly, the Blue Oval has announced it will not be cutting dealers
    the way its hometown rivals have and is instead reopening its Cleveland
    Engine Plant No.1 to build EcoBoost engines.

    According to Ford's director of North American sales, Jim Farley, Ford
    has been working to consolidate its dealers rather than close them and
    has already reduced its network by 700 dealers since 2005. Farley said
    that while Ford plans more consolidations, the numbers won't be nearly
    as drastic as those proposed by Chrysler and GM. Ford currently has
    about 3700 dealers in the U.S.

    "It seems very abrupt and unplanned," Farley said of Chrysler's
    announcement last week that it would cut nearly 800 dealers by June 9.
    "You don't orphan 4 million customers overnight without some fallout. It
    really depends on how GM and Chrysler handle these orphan owners. If
    they don't give them a lot of attention, it will result in consumers
    going to other brands."

    Ford is hoping that some of those orphaned customers and other potential
    Chrysler and GM customers will migrate to Ford showrooms instead and
    sees the reduction in the number of competitor's dealerships as
    advantages to its own dealers. On the other hand, Farley said that Ford
    is concerned about the big price cuts and incentives that closing
    Chrysler and GM dealers could begin offering in the near future in order
    to clear their lots of an estimated 44,000 unsold vehicles. He said that
    Ford will not try to match their sales and incentives.

    "We are very concerned how they are going to handle those 44,000 units,"
    he said. "It's like a liquidation sale now, and the biggest issue is
    whether they will cut prices to move the inventory."
     
    MoPar Man, May 31, 2009
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    who Guest

    It does sound like a decision by ugly Cerberus.
     
    who, Jun 1, 2009
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  10. I'm still waiting to see those fire sale prices!

    I'd take a Jeep cheap.

    CB
     
    Cheeky Bastard, Jun 10, 2009
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    News Guest


    Trade in a junker and get your $4500 discount!
     
    News, Jun 10, 2009
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    miles Guest

    Chrysler has no choice. Almost the entire deal is dictated by the White
    House. Take a look at which dealers closed and which remain open and
    then tell me theres no political bias and control from the WH!
     
    miles, Jun 10, 2009
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    miles Guest

    Maybe but there is certainly bias and control coming from the WH telling
    Chrysler which dealers to close. Total Obama campaign contributions
    from all Chrysler dealerships closed is $200. Here in Arizona the ones
    closing were all heavy Hillary or McCain contributors. It's like that
    nationwide. One thats closing (Performance Dodge) had been one of the
    busiest in Phoenix metro area thats being closed. The WH calls the
    shots on this and its disgusting.
     
    miles, Jun 10, 2009
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    miles Guest

    The dealerships being closed did NOT contribute to Obamas campaign. The
    ones who are staying open did.
     
    miles, Jun 10, 2009
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    miles Guest

    Theres been some good fire sales but not just at the closing
    dealerships. I just bought a new 2008 Caliber SRT4 for $7000 off MSRP
    sticker. This was from a surviving dealer who bought up inventory from
    one that closed.
     
    miles, Jun 10, 2009
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    Jim Higgins Guest

    That would be the Jeep Fiasco Model?
     
    Jim Higgins, Jun 10, 2009
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    News Guest


    Why? Because stealership owners are primarily Republican?
     
    News, Jun 10, 2009
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    News Guest



    Cite? WAG? Or outright fabrication?
     
    News, Jun 10, 2009
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    CopperTop Guest

    It was proven by countless sources that the percentage of republican closed
    dealers was within a point or two of the overall number of dealers that are
    republican owned. It's just one of those stories being circulated by the
    same ones who still think Obama is Muslim and that "Mission Accomplished"
    was for real.
     
    CopperTop, Jun 10, 2009
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  20. Did that bill pass today?

    If so I have a 89 K5 that can go.
     
    Cheeky Bastard, Jun 10, 2009
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