keyless entry installation

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jones, Jan 29, 2004.

  1. Jones

    Jones Guest

    I have a 1998 Plymouth Breeze, base model with no power locks, and the
    trunk release is the latch on the floor beside the driver's seat. Is
    there any way to add a keyless entry system &/or a remote starter
    system to this vehicle?
     
    Jones, Jan 29, 2004
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  2. Jones

    Steve Reinis Guest

    You need power locks to have keyless entry. A retrofit kit may be
    available. If you have an automatic transmission, you can get a remote
    starter.
     
    Steve Reinis, Jan 29, 2004
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  3. Jones

    Sid Wood Guest

    Why do you need an automatic transmission to get a remote starter?
    My daughter's car, with 5-speed manual, has an aftermarket remote start
    system.
     
    Sid Wood, Jan 29, 2004
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  4. | Why do you need an automatic transmission to get a remote starter?
    | My daughter's car, with 5-speed manual, has an aftermarket remote start
    | system.

    Usually because of the clutch/starter interlock which will only allow the
    starter to engage when the clutch is depressed.
     
    James C. Reeves, Jan 29, 2004
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  5. Jones

    Steve Reinis Guest

    I'm human and this is usenet. I could be wrong and even if I'm not, someone
    will make up ''facts'' to prove me otherwise. ;-) But every remote start
    system I've seen says an automatic transmission is needed. Many even go
    further to say that fuel injection is required as well.

    Imagine having remote start on a vehicle with a manual transmission...and it
    was parked in gear. It either won't attempt start due to a neutral safety
    switch, it will attempt to start and screw up the starter and/or clutch, or
    it will start and take off without a driver.

    How is this remote starter installed on your daughter's car? How old is the
    car? Will it start if the trans is left in gear? Does the vehicle start
    without the clutch being depressed? Isn't it common that there is an
    interlock so a vehicle won't start without the clutch being depressed?
     
    Steve Reinis, Jan 30, 2004
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    mic canic Guest

    i have been installingh remote starts for the better part of 15 years and i have
    done 2 vehicles with a manual shift trans and both were also tied into the
    parking brake so if the brake was off they would not start and i also asked both
    customers to sign a waiver of liability regarding the fact the vehicle could
    start in gear and cause personal harm even death to others and property damage
    both people i knew and would npot do it for anyone else so it can be done but
    99.9 of the installers won't do it
     
    mic canic, Jan 31, 2004
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  7. Jones

    Bill 2 Guest

    A lot of manual remote starters have a procedure to ensure that you leave it
    in gear. It would be something like: Put car in neutral, hit a button and
    remove key, engine keeps running. Get out of the car, lock the door / arm
    alarm via remote. This will lock the doors and shut the engine off. This way
    you are outside away from the car before the doors lock, with the engine
    running, so it must be in neutral. You could probably install a sensor to
    determine if it is in Neutral as well.
     
    Bill 2, Feb 2, 2004
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  8. Jones

    Mike Behnke Guest

    But don't forget to set the parking brake!!!!
     
    Mike Behnke, Feb 2, 2004
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  9. Jones

    Bill 2 Guest

    You'd notice the car start to creep when you take your foot of the brake.
    Unless it was a perfectly flat area. But setting the p-brake should be
    habit, especially in a manual. But I'm sure it would be possible to require
    the parking brake to be set.
     
    Bill 2, Feb 3, 2004
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    Joe Guest

    It's a lot easier to imagine remote starting a manual transmission car than
    a car with a carburetor. As you mentioned, remote starting a manual
    transmission car would absolute guarantee you'd be starting it with the
    clutch out, clutch start switch bypassed (if applicable). This is pretty
    much dangerous as a cocked pistol, but the car could be started. So it
    depends on what you mean by "needed". On an automatic car, you get the
    starter interlocked to tranny "park" position for free. On a manual car, you
    have to defeat interlocks, and then your car is going to drive off on its
    own. Maybe not the first day, but some day. There is no way that any of us
    would be consistent enough to leave it out of gear every day forever.
     
    Joe, Feb 4, 2004
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