Jeep VS others

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Elliot Westcott, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. I'm on a quest to find other like minded people who race their Jeeps.

    I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9l with some mods, (intake, PCM,
    headers) but no major power adders like NOS or a supercharger.

    The Jeep with the 360 and awd makes for a great vehicle in an 1/8 mile
    race.

    After quite a bit of Drag strip experience here are some interesting
    results

    Jeep VS Chevy Silverado SS Jeep Wins
    Jeep VS Dodge RAM 1500 Hemi Jeep Wins
    Jeep VS Ford F150 Harley Davidson Jeep Wins
    Jeep VS Ford Mustang GT 4.6 Jeep Wins (if mustang is mostly stock)
    Jeep VS Chevy Camaro LS1 LS1 always wins (unless it is a bad
    driver)
    Jeep VS Nissan 350z Jeep Wins
    Jeep VS Corvette Corvette wins
    Jeep VS BMW Z3 2.8 Jeep Wins
    Jeep VS WRX WRX Wins
    Jeep VS Acura RSX Jeep Wins
    Jeep VS Toyota Celica Jeep Wins
    Jeep VS Ford Lightning Lightning Wins
    Jeep VS Pontiac GTP Jeep Wins

    So that is just a quick list of actual Jeep VS results from my
    experience at the track. I have some Jeep VS experiences on the
    street but street racings aren't as quantifiable as Jeep VS races on a
    drag strip.

    I run a 9.2 in the 1/8 with a 60ft time around 2.01. 0-60 is under 6
    seconds. Does anyone else have any good Jeep VS experiences or know
    of a good place to discuss Jeep VS experiences?
     
    Elliot Westcott, Nov 17, 2004
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  2. Elliot Westcott

    griffin Guest

    The driver of that 350z sucks ass. Kinda surprised you couldn't beat a stock
    WRX but took the Celica. I've seen quite a few Celica/WRX races and never
    seen the WRX win (unless it's the STi)? Altho one of the fastest cars in my
    city is a souped up '01 Imprezza ...insanely fast.

    Still ...those are some impressive wins. How do you fare in the 1/4 mile
    tho?
     
    griffin, Nov 17, 2004
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  3. I'd take all of the listed vehicles against my 4.0l Wrangler. I guarantee I
    would win the 1/8 mile everytime.

    I get to choose where that 1/8 mile is, though....
     
    Matt Macchiarolo, Nov 17, 2004
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  4. In all of my Jeep races, simply getting to the other end of the track was
    the goal. By that measure, there isn't a LS1 out there that can beat me. I
    would gladly put my pink slip up against the fool with the LS, but I m not
    sure I would want his LS at the end. I suppose I could set the course where
    he gets toasted right off the line, then his LS would be salvagable later.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Nov 17, 2004
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  5. Elliot Westcott

    griffin Guest

    The funniest incident I've ever had racing was when I went up against a 318
    Duster. I was given a 6-8 second headstart on a 1 mile strip in my '88 YJ
    before he even hit the gas pedal. Needless to say I got a good view of his
    taillights by the end of the race. Man are those things quick.
     
    griffin, Nov 17, 2004
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  6. Sure, but can he CRWL?



     
    Jeff Strickland, Nov 18, 2004
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  7. Elliot Westcott

    Ed Roper Guest

    I raced a big assed puddle one time in my 4cyl TJ.....


    the puddle won....
     
    Ed Roper, Nov 18, 2004
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  8. Elliot Westcott

    Will Honea Guest

    I'm with you. Even a VW bug can go too fast, my problem is going slow
    enough.
     
    Will Honea, Nov 18, 2004
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  9. Elliot Westcott

    KokomoKid Guest

    For 1/8 mile drags, that AWD is definitely a good thing. Most of the
    results are what I might expect, but the 350z should beat the Jeep--probably
    lit up the tires too much, and I suspect the WRX guy bogged and didn't get
    the turbo spooled up very well. In all, you have an interesting list of
    runs.
     
    KokomoKid, Nov 18, 2004
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  10. In an answer to the 1/4 run. I run a decent 14.4. A lot of the Jeep
    vs experiences would be different at a longer track.

    If anyone wants to have my Jeep VS their car on a road course. I
    would agree to it as long as they would then agree to an offroad
    course and maybe a towing segment.

    The list of vehicles that could beat a jeep in all those categorys is
    very small.
    Jeep VS Porsche Cayenne Turbo (probably, but $90,000?)
    Jeep VS ML55 AMG (maybe)
    Jeep VS BMW 4.8is (maybe)
     
    Elliot Westcott, Nov 18, 2004
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  11. Elliot Westcott

    Gary Powers Guest

    What? A fast Jeep? Are Jeeps really that fast? This sounds like BS.
    BS alert!
    BS alert!
    Maybe a Jeep vs another suv but sports cars?
    Give me a break.
     
    Gary Powers, Nov 18, 2004
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  12. Elliot Westcott

    Geoff Guest

    I suppose you've never taken on a V8-powered Grand Cherokee in a local
    stoplight Grand Prix? Let me assure you that I've found through hard
    experience they can hold their own in 1/8 mile races, especially a 5.9L version.

    --Geoff
     
    Geoff, Nov 18, 2004
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  13. Elliot Westcott

    Gary Powers Guest

    Really?
    I guess hadn't thought much about them. Is that 5.9 similar to the Dakota
    5.9 R/T engine?
     
    Gary Powers, Nov 18, 2004
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  14. Elliot Westcott

    Geoff Guest

    Yep, they're very similar. More than enough to induce fairly rapid Jeep
    accel. I believe the 0 to 60 times were in the low seven seconds range.

    --Geoff
     
    Geoff, Nov 18, 2004
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  15. Elliot Westcott

    griffin Guest

    On the road, I'd like to see you race a stock BMW M3 or M5. Those M5's are
    like lightning.
    What about an Escalade? No idea how fast they are stock, but they sure have
    alot of power. Then again ...that's a lot of vehicle to get moving.
     
    griffin, Nov 18, 2004
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  16. Not only, can it CRWL in, can it CRWL out again?
     
    Jeff Strickland, Nov 18, 2004
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  17. Elliot Westcott

    bob zee Guest


    same engine. 5.9 liters
    360 cubic inches

    bob z.
     
    bob zee, Nov 18, 2004
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  18. Elliot Westcott

    mighty360 Guest

    I have had a couple of street runs against a new BMW M3, a friend has
    one. All The Jeep was able to do vs a M3 is jump in front until about
    30mph and then the M3 starts to pass and then just pull away. It is in
    a different league. The M5 is very similar, if not faster.

    As far as an Escalade. I'm putting out more torque than the Caddy and
    weigh about 2000 lbs less. So Jeep beats the Escalade in any flavor.
     
    mighty360, Nov 19, 2004
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  19. Elliot Westcott

    mighty360 Guest

    Right!
    To CRWL out again is the real measure of a 4x4.
    This is my second Jeep. And unfortunately, at times, I've turned into
    more of a street Jeep. I've removed the underbody armor for a weight
    reduction and don't take my sleeper speedy Jeep offroad too much any
    more.

    I miss those days. Maybe I just need to get a CJ and spend some
    quality time doing the other thing Jeeps are good at.
     
    mighty360, Nov 19, 2004
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  20. Elliot Westcott

    griffin Guest

    Yup, I got absolutely killed by a modified M3. I had about an 1/8 mile
    headstart around a hairpin turn and lost so bad I still can't believe it.
    The most amazing aspect of that automobile is despite the fact the road was
    terrible, at like 80mph he had no problem staying completely on the inside
    lane. Simply an amazing automobile and definitely my dream car. And ya
    ....the M5 has alot more balls. Saw the first one in my city today, actually.
    Wow!
     
    griffin, Nov 19, 2004
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