Ignition timing in Caravan '93 - 3.0L engine

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by r_qureshi, May 27, 2006.

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    r_qureshi Guest

    Dodge Caravan - 1993 SE
    Miles: 87K
    Engine : Mitsubishi 3.0L

    The book says to check the ignition timing, you should disconnect the
    coolant sensor. As soon as I disconnect the coolant sensor the engine starts
    breathing a lot making and the timing mark keeps jumping between 10-15
    degrees. If the sensor is connected it doesn't breath at all and the engine
    seems to run normally. What could I be missing here?

    TIA
    -Paul
     
    r_qureshi, May 27, 2006
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Does the cooling fan turn on when you disconnect the coolant
    sensor?
     
    aarcuda69062, May 27, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

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    You are supposed to disconnect the coolant sensor and yes the radiator fan
    will turn on. If you set the timing and reconnect the coolant sensor,
    restart the car ......if it runs bad then you have a problem. The mark can
    also be jumping around because the belt is loose.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, May 27, 2006
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    r_qureshi Guest

    aarcuda69062,
    Yes, the cooling fan does turn on and that is when the engine starts
    breathing i.e. RPM goes low and then perhaps IAC tries to maintain the RPM
    and this process keeps repeating while the coolant sensor is disconnected.

    -Paul
     
    r_qureshi, May 27, 2006
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    r_qureshi Guest

    Glenn,
    Thanks for the response. Yup the fan does turn on after I disconnect the
    sensor. The van seems to run fine after I connect the sensor back. I was
    expecting the engine to run steadily so that I can see a steady timing mark
    to ensure that it is indeed 12 degrees +/- 2. By belt being loose, are you
    talking about the timing belt ? If indeed it is the timing belt causing it,
    then I wonder why it does not happen when sensor is connected back.

    -Paul
     
    r_qureshi, May 27, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    --

    When the sensor is connected, the timing is controlled by the engine
    controller, by disconnecting the sensor the timing is not being controlled
    and the mark should be steady unless the belt is loose or the distributor
    is worn. how many miles on this and has the belt changed?

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, May 27, 2006
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    r_qureshi Guest

    It has around 87K miles and the timing belt has never been changed.
    Distributor, rotor, sparkplugs and the wires are all new and I bought from
    chrysler. I am the first owner of this vehicle. This is what triggered me to
    check the ignition timing.

    -Paul
     
    r_qureshi, May 27, 2006
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Just checking that you were disconnecting the right thing.
     
    aarcuda69062, May 27, 2006
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