Hybrid Lovers Read This and Lament

How's that emergency brake doing, psycho??

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Get back under your bridge, troll!

"Hey stupid - I've tried to fix it and i can't. The cable adjusting
nuts are rusted solid."
--Laura Bush - Vehicular Homicide (a.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her
boyfriend, Pride of America, aunt millie and Judy Dairya,
among others. See: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj),
6 Apr 2005 11:05:54 -0700
Ref:
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/8exv3

 

and emergency brakes and tires with thread....



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"My tars have been bald for two years.
Every month i glue some sandpaper to them and
everythings cool."

--Laura Buch murdered her boyfriend
/ laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE 10/25/05

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IOW a turbine is much like Stern.....

 

and speedometers....


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"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity:

the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en

Joshua Calvert <> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
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However it is a real problem for Harrier jets in hover mode.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

New plugs, rotor, and cap every 10k? That's not very smart.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

He has to; his POS beater keeps fouling them out.


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"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity:

the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en

Joshua Calvert <> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

 

It doesnt run on AA size but the development of better, lighter, and higher
capacity modules for the car helps to make all sizes and shapes of cells
better(the original 1997-2000 model in japan only did use "D" size cells in
the traction battery)

 

And to think, the point where conventional cars could be entirely
recycled had just been reached.

(I was watching ask-this-old-house a couple weeks ago and they had a
landscaping railroad tie type thing that was made out out of the 'fluff',
the last 6% or so of material from automobilies that nobody had a use
for)

 

Oh I see!

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

Especially when using a flashlight to see the gauges and all the other
things that are let go.

 

Damned, your car must be a real POS if you've got to change the plugs
and rotor/cap every 10k.

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"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity:

the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en

Joshua Calvert <> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

 

Not much...

Which is exactly what we get.


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"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity:

the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en

Joshua Calvert <> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

 

For more money you can now get a European car giving more MPG and more
trouble free miles.

 

Your current vehicle must be very old to require such frequent oil and
plug changes. If it isn't old you're wasting the environment.

 

Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend ()'s words of
wisdom, love, and respect (spelling and grammatical errors left
intact)

Even a safety nut like me doesn't carry things that far.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/c24964a9d26bba6d?hl=en&

My tars have been bald for two years. Every month i glue some
sandpaper to them and everythings cool - as long as you drive slow and
sensible.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d0d9405ce0464706?hl=en&

Driving twenty year old beaters doesn't keep me up to date. Anyway
it's a stupid idea.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/ff331395cfc7b81b?hl=en

My dash lights burned out years ago.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/1edbd9e8ee94fa7a?

Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch
could be 25, i thought. Turns out the cop was right. No complaints
from me then. I should have known the law.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.autos/msg/b140009050c624a9

STFU YOU HATEFILLED TROLL.
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I'm the troll here dood.
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I'm the troll here.
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Fork you, beyatch. I'm the greatest troll that ever lived!!!!
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Being a troll is an honorable life.
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"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity:

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Joshua Calvert <> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy":
Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

 

Hold on there Daniel!

The battery industry is well able to come up with aftermarket replacement
batteries for these cars. They aren't doing so now because there's no
demand
for them - because the warranties are all still in effect.

The dollar values of these battery packs are funny money, they are
accounting
fictions. Since the automakers pays for the warranty replacement of the
battery, the automakers can price them however they want.

Consider for a moment this scenario. Honda could have figured out
even before commencing manufacture that the battery pack will fail
at least 1 time under warranty. We also know that Honda is probably
losing $2,000 on every new hybrid they manufacture.

So Honda decided to engage in a bit of creative accounting. In order to
minimize the loss on each car that they manufacture, they understate the
actual cost of the battey pack by $2000. Thus while the real dollar
amount they are losing on every new car is $4,000, because the
battery pack is underestimated, the loss looks less than it is really.

Now, they have to get the money for these understated batteries
somewhere. That's where the overinflated $8000 warranty battery
comes in. Because it's a warranty, Honda can argue next year
to it's stockholders that they didn't know warranty costs on the hybrids
would be so high, thus their profits are down. In the meantime the
$8000 warranty batteries are actually subsidizing the cost of the
new batteries.

You have to assume that Honda's and Toyota's stockholders will
tolerate some loss on hybrids, as a skunkworks market. But
they won't tolerate it for very long, and they won't tolerate it
if it's pretty massive. If the loss gets to high the investors will
force those companies to jettison hybrid production. So if Honda's
managers want to continue building and losing money on hybrids,
they are going to have to do some creative accounting tricks
to hide some of the losses on these cars. Pushing the loss out
of the manufacturing cost bucket and into the warranty claims
bucket is one of these tricks.

Why are you thinking that these cars batteries are going to be replaced
by NiMH? My guess is the aftermarket battery industry will come out
with a lead acid gel cell conventional technology retrofit battery for these
cars, that will cost a quarter of the NiMH. Obviously the fuel mileage will
suffer but not a lot, and the battery industry is under no obligation to
manufacture a part that will retain the existing mileage. All that would
probably need to be done is a reprogrammed battery computer to
be installed that will properly maintain charge on a lead acid pack.

Ted

 

Around $30 to $60 for a lead acid battery.

mike hunt

 

Will they also design a trailer to carry all the LA batteries need to
produce enough voltage?

mike


"Ted Mittelstaedt" >

 

You must have way too much time on your hands to be spending it
nitpicking on usenet over spelling and grammar. Now go back to that
high school and make the kids there miserable like so many teachers do.

John