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Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.


  1. ....at *substantially* higher cost, start to finish, whether that cost was
    directly to me for treatment, surgery and meds or indirectly via insurance
    premiums.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 4, 2003
  2. Same reason there's opposition to same-sex marriage: It makes people feel
    icky.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 4, 2003
  3. Try getting a lodged kidney stone in America without medical coverage or
    lots of money, then get back to us.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 4, 2003
  4. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    And yet slavery was ended (at least in the US). And it wasn't ended by redefining
    the word slave to mean something else. You keep equating my distaste for the way
    some groups want to implement a goal with a distate for the goal. This is not
    correct. If you want to grant identical rights to same sex unions and marriage, go
    ahead, just don't do it my having some judge decide the legal meaning of the word
    "marriage" has magically changed to include same sex unions.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 4, 2003
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    The Ancient One, Dec 4, 2003
  6. You were lucky they still had money in the budget at that time, otherwise
    you would have been placed on a waiting list.
     
    The Ancient One, Dec 4, 2003

  7. Your lying again Lloyd, and Richard Nixon has more credibility than you.
     
    The Ancient One, Dec 4, 2003
  8. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Brent P Guest

    There are alot of reasons why a company could lose a handset deal with
    a carrier.
    I worked on GSM product. The demands are just as great. And because it
    is all one standard the competition is even tougher. There is nobody
    locked in to your product, or with few other choices. Constant improvement
    was a requirement. Things like dual band, and tri-band GSM phones. GPRS,
    etc. Being the first to market with them and selling as many of them
    as possible before competitors came out with their models.

    In the USA the different systems would allow for a company to get way
    ahead in or two of the MAs or even have captive customers like NEXTEL.
    No it's not similar at all. GSM is like the european standards for
    headlamps and other technical things. A unification so that one can
    go easily from one country to the next. I would be like if someone
    who lived in ohio drove on the left while those in IN drove on the right
    side of the road if they didn't do this. Such technology concerns are
    an outgrowth of being close together.

    This was because it was decided to use CDMA for 3G. A world-wide decision
    on a standard. Yep, the very process you are arguing against.
    Features come about in two ways, the manufacturers come up with ideas
    and try to sell them or the carrier decides they want X and the
    manufacturers try to make it work.
     
    Brent P, Dec 4, 2003
  9. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    I don't know. Is there a poll available? And when you say they agree with you -
    do you mean completely agree with you, or agree with certain points. For
    instance, they may agree that the concept of global warming due to CO2 is valid
    but they may disagree on the magnitude, effects, or the suggested remedies. I
    think you overstate the level of agreement in an attempt to give more weight to
    your particular beliefs. But that is just my personal opinion (not backed by any
    other group).

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 4, 2003
  10. You've never provided an objective source for anything in your life Lloyd.
    Personally I read every article I can find on a subject that interest me,
    and use all the information, From BOTH sides, to come to an informed
    conclusion. You simply parrot what you read on left wing sites and call it
    science. Your a lier, a fool, and an idiot. I only reply to you because it
    is so much fun to remind you of your place at the bottom.
    Because they can run to the emergency room every time they get a papercut or
    nosebleed. May be popular, but the actual costs are far higher than care in
    America is, where people handle minor issues themselves.

    England's is even more socialized, but even the
    Bungee jumping is popular, doesn't mean I want the Government to require
    everyone to do it.
     
    The Ancient One, Dec 4, 2003
  11. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    Sigh, talk about circular arguments. The traditional legal definition of a
    marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Without changing the definition of
    the word, same sex couples can't get married in a legal sense. They could be
    granted the same rights by passing a law that made same sex unions equivalent to a
    traditional marriage. Why is this concept so hard for you to understand. When laws
    were enacted to provide rights to married couples, no one conceived that it would
    apply to same sex unions. I think it is desirable that same sex couple have those
    same rights and responsibilities. I just don't think this should be implemented by
    redefining the long established legal meaning of the word "marriage."

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 4, 2003
  12. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    "Can't you three or four guys that are continuing this thread find some common
    group to post to, rather than all of this crossposting?

    Try alt.argumentative.idiots.wont.give.up"
     
    C. E. White, Dec 4, 2003
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    The Ancient One, Dec 4, 2003

  14. They don't speak for any consumers I know. Consumer Reports is a joke, used
    by those people who lack the intelligence to invistigate an issue and learn
    the truth.
     
    The Ancient One, Dec 4, 2003
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    The Ancient One, Dec 4, 2003
  16. What's wrong Lloyd, no lame answer? One nice thing about you Lloyd, you make
    everyone else greatful they aren't as dumb as you.
     
    The Ancient One, Dec 4, 2003
  17. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    I'll try to clarify -

    I do not have a problem with the idea that same sex couples should be granted
    the same rights and responsibilities as people in a traditional man/woman
    marriages. To implement this, my preference is that laws be enacted to grant
    same sex unions rights equivalent to a traditional marriage where appropriate.
    I'd prefer this be done without trying to redefine the legal meaning of the
    word marriage. I am especially opposed to a judge deciding that the word
    marriage means something different than the traditional legal definition. If a
    law was passed that explicitly changed the definition, then I'd have to live
    with it (I'd be satisfied but not delighted).

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 4, 2003
  18. Good question. As long as they're all consenting adults, who cares?
    --
    Brandon Sommerville
    remove ".gov" to e-mail

    Definition of "Lottery":
    Millions of stupid people contributing
    to make one stupid person look smart.
     
    Brandon Sommerville, Dec 4, 2003
  19. No, that dollar driven isn't by definition a good thing. I'm not
    saying that it's a bad thing, but you appear to be saying that it
    simply makes it better by being that way. If you really want the
    latest in techno gadgets you have to look at the Japanese market, not
    the American.
    And American companies didn't sell to him at all, right? You don't
    seriously believe that, do you?
    The US has demonstrated that it's willing to support a friendly
    dictator to a democracy that doesn't agree with them many times over,
    regardless of the cost to the people involved. Claiming that they
    were going to go communist is a good way of justifying the actions,
    but that's all it is.
    --
    Brandon Sommerville
    remove ".gov" to e-mail

    Definition of "Lottery":
    Millions of stupid people contributing
    to make one stupid person look smart.
     
    Brandon Sommerville, Dec 4, 2003
  20. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Brent P Guest

    or taxes for that purpose should the USA adopt such a system.
     
    Brent P, Dec 4, 2003
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