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Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Why is it all the right-wing Taliban here would believe anything an HMO or
    drug company tells them but reject the main voice for the consumer?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Because CR is a consumer advocate group. Not liberal or conservative. Now I
    know to you Taliban anybody to the left of Atilla the Hun is a liberal if not
    a socialist, but the rest of us aren't stupid like that.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  3. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  4. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    You probably thought segregation wasn't discrimination though.
    Which laws mandate that?
    You really think telling a 5-year old he can't vote is like telling an adult
    whom he can't marry?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  5. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    But the US government, not being JudeoChristian or any religion, should not
    reflect religious bias, should it?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  6. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    I see the Taliban is at it again, equating child rape with what 2 consenting
    adults do. What's next, integration was the same as genocide?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  7. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    You've still provided no objective source for that, whereas I have.

    Canada's a democracy; if their health care system is so bad, why haven't the
    people gotten rid of it? England's is even more socialized, but even the
    conservative Thatcher realized it was so popular she didn't dare touch it.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  8. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  9. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Sorry, that's not "exposure." Read what people living in Canada and Britain
    say. Not anecdotes.

    Yeah, sure.

    Both countries are democracies; they must like their health care systems.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  10. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Obejctive studies find the opposite, and I hardly think a right-wing shill
    like you has much credibility on the issue anyway.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  11. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    In the 19th century, the same could be said about popular opposition to ending
    slavery.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  12. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Considering the decision has only been out a few weeks, and the legislature is
    probably not in session now...
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  13. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Do you have any idea how many scientists agree with me on GW? About the same
    percentage that'd you'd find agreeing that evolution is real, for example.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  14. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    No, but when you prevent an entire class from getting married so they CAN have
    those rights, that is.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 4, 2003
  15. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    Why are they granted to heterosexual couple and not to everyone?
    I have admitted nothing about myself. It is an established fact that
    million of people are against redefining marriage to include same sex
    unions. There are many diverse reasons for this opposition. You
    apparently could care less about their reasons.
    I told you I am opposed to the whole idea of changing laws by redefining
    words. Why do you try to twist what I say? You have not presented a
    single logical reason why changing the legal definition of the word
    marriage is in the interest of society. Instead you have tried to paint
    me as anti gay or presented irrelevant comparisons. I assume this is
    because you have no logical reason and just immediately descended into
    name calling to try and get your way.

    If tomorrow morning my home state passes a law making same sex unions
    equivalent to marriage, I'd think it was a good thing. However, if
    tomorrow morning some Federal judge decides that the word marriage
    doesn't mean what most citizens have understood it to mean for hundreds
    of years, but instead means something different, I will be disgusted.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 4, 2003
  16. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    I can agree with this idea!

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 4, 2003
  17. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Jenn Wasdyke Guest

    As opposed to the American health care system where kidney stone patients are
    tossed out on the street and beaten before being put out of their misery..... Yes
    Canada does a pretty good job at emergency care, but you don't see many new
    innotative surgeries, drugs, and techniques coming out of Canada at all.
     
    Jenn Wasdyke, Dec 4, 2003
  18. So change the codification slightly. Instead of specifying that it's
    a man and woman specify that it's two people. Problem solved, no
    other laws need to be changed.

    As far as the religious society, it's got a few issues of it's own to
    deal with before passing judgement on anyone else. Covering up
    pedophiles while condemning gay marriage seems a little hypocritical
    to me, don't you think?
    That's not an explanation of why it rankles, it's an explanation of
    what it is.
    --
    Brandon Sommerville
    remove ".gov" to e-mail

    Definition of "Lottery":
    Millions of stupid people contributing
    to make one stupid person look smart.
     
    Brandon Sommerville, Dec 4, 2003
  19. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    Yeah, I know.
    And I've used that argument, myself, especially in gun control
    discussions (which is NOT an invitation to start such a discussion
    here!).
    But that's a case where an agenda is painfully obvious. In this
    discussion, I don't see an agenda to expand into such areas.
    There may be one, but I don't see it.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 4, 2003
  20. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Jenn Wasdyke Guest

    Your argument is to redefine something that has been well defined. If
    somebody says that a square can only have 4 sides, you could call them a
    circular parrot for not including a pentagon as a square with that reasoning.

    If people want to change that definition, in the USA at least there is a
    proper procedure to do such in each state. Until then the existing definition
    stands.

    Not what the Massachusetts legislature did, as the State Senate never voted on
    the constitutional amendment on marriage. They were required to vote on this
    under the constitution, as the proper number of signatures were obtained.
    Instead the state senate pro tem adjourned the consitutional convention
    without the requisite up-or-down vote. Yay or nay vote, that is all that was
    needed. So if a state legislature can't follow its duty to follow its
    consitution, what good is it?
     
    Jenn Wasdyke, Dec 4, 2003
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