Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    I always found the argument that we can't tell a woman what to do with
    her body rather strange.
    We most certainly can, and do, just that: it's illegal for a woman to
    use illegal drugs on/in her body, for example. That destroys the
    argument right there.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 3, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Brent P Guest

    Some do, some don't.
     
    Brent P, Dec 3, 2003
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    C. E. White Guest

    Then pass a law that creates the same benefits for same sex unions, but don't
    try to call it a marriage. It is not. Besides, I keep hearing that there is a
    marriage penalty in the tax code.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 3, 2003
  4. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Brent P Guest

    While I only quoted one line from Dr. Parker for the sake of bandwidth
    and readability, I am responding to his greater arguements. By using
    this example, he has put the spot light on an area where the
    government system hurts the quality of care. He has greatly weakened
    his overall arguement.

    BTW, Hospitals typically don't provide dialysis as an on going treatment,
    maybe as an emergency treatement or for a patient that is there for
    something else, but the dialysis is the business of dialysis clinics.
     
    Brent P, Dec 3, 2003
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    Brent P Guest

     
    Brent P, Dec 3, 2003
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    Steve Guest

    Exactly. That's the only way he can "win" the debate, which is why those
    (inaccurate) labels keep getting thrown at the wall in hope they'll stick.
     
    Steve, Dec 3, 2003
  7. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Brent P Guest

    Parker once again shows that he has no concept of the inner workings of
    an automobile. Old engines do not get exemptions either. They are held
    to the standards of era they came from. A new carb and new pistons, hell
    an entire rebuild won't make a 1973 auto pass 2003 new car emissions.
    I doubt a 1973 could even pass IM240 for a 2003. (idle test is a
    different story since at least for IL, before they went to IM240, the
    requirements were the same for 1982 on up)
     
    Brent P, Dec 3, 2003
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    Steve Guest

    The "new class of civil union" would cover that just fine.
     
    Steve, Dec 3, 2003
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    Brent P Guest

    So this is not about the environment, it's about government power and
    buracratic nonsense if you are correct. If this were about the
    environment the regulations would not be all-or-nothing. Because quite
    clearly modifications that improve the performance of the power plant
    and reduce emissions are good for the environment and should be allowed
    even if the whole plant isn't redone to meet the standards of new equipment.
    Part-way is better for the environment than doing nothing.
     
    Brent P, Dec 3, 2003
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    C. E. White Guest

    Have any new ones been enacted recently? I thought almost all such laws were
    enacted many years ago and were definitely middle of the road sort of laws at the
    time.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 3, 2003
  11. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    Doesn't the same apply when "society" makes rules about sex, abortion, marriage,
    etc., etc., etc.?

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 3, 2003
  12. No, that's called rape. That's not what we're talking about. Unless you
    mean I should be able to "dispense" with my children and demand the
    government pay for their upbringing... or unless you want to ban adoption
    (wouldn't want to stop an abortion, now).

     
    David J. Allen, Dec 3, 2003
  13. Once again, this should be a limited government issue. Heaven forbid we
    should trust local jurisdictions to govern themselves. Heaven forbid Thomas
    and Scalia should read the constitution *as written* and judge accordingly
    notwithstanding leftist activism that can't win legislatively.
     
    David J. Allen, Dec 3, 2003
  14. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Brent P Guest

     
    Brent P, Dec 3, 2003
  15. That's the problem with liberals. They don't view the taxing and spending
    of people's income as a sacred trust done with great reluctance and limited
    to necessary functions. The sacred trust for liberals is with the
    recipients of tax dollars, not the givers. So, the more the merrier.





     
    David J. Allen, Dec 3, 2003
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    Brent P Guest

    Most people aren't, but most people who are on dialysis will end up on one.


    No response from parker, just one misleading sentance.
     
    Brent P, Dec 3, 2003
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    John Mielke Guest

    John Mielke, Dec 3, 2003
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    C. E. White Guest

    And? Why is it that some groups (psudeo-liberals is my term for them) always what
    to create laws they like out of thin air through judicial action and ignore
    legitimate ,if distasteful, laws because they don't like them. There is a process
    for adding and removing laws. If insisting that these procedures be followed
    makes me a conservative, then I guess I am guilty. Unfortunately, most of the
    people I know who claim to be conservatives don't agree with many of my ideas, so
    I guess I am lost in the wilderness.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 3, 2003
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    C. E. White Guest

    "We" don't know that. "You" may believe what you wish.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 3, 2003
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    C. E. White Guest

    This statement is the sort of crap uttered by psudeo-liberals that I find
    particularly offensive. Trying to redine the word "marriage" to cover same sex
    unions is not discrimination.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Dec 3, 2003
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