Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

A "liberal" is anyone that thinks that corporations should be held liable
for their illegal actions. A "liberal" is someone that thinks that what a
person does in their own home alone or with consenting adults is only the
business of those present.

Marc
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I pay less than 20% of my paycheck to the government. Even including my
employer's contribution to SS (which I wouldn't receive if they didn't
pay), I pay less than 25%. I have no state sales or income tax. The
rebate the state pays is roughly the tax on my home. So, when you add all
the other taxes, I think I would be quite far from 50%. But then, I make
more than the average lower middle class family. Perhaps, despite the
claims by the Republicans to the contrary, if you made more you'd pay a
smaller percentage?

( I paid about 2% more in taxes when I paid 8%+ tax in TX, but certainly
not enough to make it up to 50%)

Marc
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Obviously a non-sequitur.

Prove that we are not on the cusp of another ice age and that increased CO2
in the atmosphere will help out the planet.

(not that I think that is or is not the case, just that your condescending
attitude is covering up your ignorance and unwillingness to debate the
facts)

Marc
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Because he is an elitist snob who thinks he knows whats best for everybody
else. Only those below him should be required to drive more efficient
vehicles. Kind of like a certain SUV bashing Kennedy who has a private jet
spew pollution into the air while it trucks his rear end anywhere he goes.

 

Probably more than made up for in damage (emisions, particulates, human
deaths, property damage, etc.) due to forest fires from
counter-productive forest management policies. Same for their policies
in the last decade on not building power plants which also bit them in
the a**. But as long as it makes them feel good - that's what's
important.

This could be a chicken-egg thing too. If the country (its government
and its people) are in survival model (or is totally corrupt - the two
often go hand in hand), then chances are high that it's going have a bad
economy as well as not properly take care of its water system (due to
priorities being elsewhere) - one may have nothing to do with the other
(economy and clean water) in such a country (either due to the
priorities being different - only so much money to go around - or the
gov't plain not watching out for the peoples' interests).

One must be careful in assigning cause and effect. You might find that
contries that have healthy economies and clean water have a much higher
percentage of blue cars, whereas poor countries with crappy water have
cars that are more earth tones. It would be a mistake to conclude that
having blue cars makes for clean water or a good economy (but could in
some way be a result).

Bill Putney
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But how could that be!!! A true scientist (such as LP) would never
ignore true science!! Would they?

Bill Putney
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Ohhh - please! Don't get me started!

Bill Putney
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The left (aka 'Liberals') want to get into the people's homes in an even
more sinister thought police style rather than the simple view screen
model of the 'right'. But either way it's sliced, it's 1984.

 

You do X amount of work. It costs the empolyer Y. That cost is what the
empolyer sees and considers the market rate for an employee that can do
X. The work X is worth Y. If the hidden SS tax goes away, the work is
still worth Y. To keep and attract the best employees that segment would
become wages. Now for the unskilled, inexperienced worker on the bottom
rung, he probably wouldn't get it, however, since he could now work for
a lower cost the likelyhood of finding a job to build skill and experience
is greater and he will get himself out of that posistion.

 

That tax increases hurt economies is an observed fact.<<

It is only "hotly debated" beccause the Leftists must have massive &
continual revenue stream increases to fund their plans for ever increasing
government & its attendant patronage. They must therefore attempt to fool
the public into thinking "the rich" need to be taxed more & more. Any review
of tax codes shows "the rich" turn out to be anyone making more than $50k a
year, with the threshold creeping lower year on year.

Democrats plan for and try to perpetuate public ignorance on this subject.
Yesterday it was reported that Bills put forward by the Democrats just this
this year, if enacted, would total nearly $450 billion vs. roughly 36 b by
the Republicans. Further, cost for Democratic proposals when totalled over
the next ten years would increased the defict nearly tenfold over their own
deficit figures from the "evil Bush tax cuts". They hope we can't read or
add & subtract. They also hope we forget that they voted for them. Once
again, Democrats represent the epitome of irresponsibility, lies and
hypocrisy.

 

And the majority of voting shares are controlled by the financial elite. <

I suppose that's a problem, huh? The people who understand business and take
the biggest risks shouldn't have a voice? BTW, I'm not of the "financial
elite" but I get to vote on every holding I have. Every shareholder has that
right. The alternative is governmaent control of business, which has and
will always be a total failure .. or, did you miss what happened in Russia?

 

Developed countries do not make more of a mess than undeveloped countries.
The US has done way more than it's share to prevent and clean up pollution.
Developing countries would benefit from paying the price now to reduce
pollution rather than waiting until they were "developed"..... and then
cleaning up the mess.

I'm sure they do. But the US had to start preventing pollution decades ago
as the industrial revolution took hold and pollution began to be a problem.
Whatever the Swedes and Germans do, the Americans are no slackers when it
comes to pollution controls. They've been leaders. Unfortunately, the
environmental extremists go too far. Their agenda goes beyond clean air and
clean water and the like.

Don't worry about that! These megathreads have a life of their own and only
those who care participate; everyone else ignores us. I can state my
opinion on this matter rather succinctly.

Say what you want about US foreign policy against Communism or supporting
Israel or whatever, the Islamic extremists only have power to threaten us
because of oil and proliferation of WMD. If the world didn't need middle
east oil or if terrorists only had car bombs, there wouldn't be this war on
terror.

 

We wish. Now if you can keep it to just that you'd be a hero.

 

I'm not taking Lloyds side, but income tax rates are marginal. When you're
in the 25% bracket, only the last dollars you make are taxed at that rate.
Your first dollars are still only taxed at the lower rates. The actual
percentage we pay depends on the how you compute the number. I would see it
as the total amount of tax divided into your gross income. Nonetheless, 25%
seems unreal. I can get close to 25% with just the taxes taken out of my
paycheck. Nevermind property taxes, sales taxes, gasoline taxes, automobile
taxes, energy taxes, communications taxes (did I miss any?).

 

"They hope we can't read or add & subtract."
Which is why they keep the government schools so bad.

 

"They hope we can't read or add & subtract." <<

Indeed, they've made teacher tenure & benefits more important than learning,
accountability for student peroformance is "unfair" to the Liberal teacher's
unions, etc. Then they one one hand join in the President's "No Child Left
Behind" plan, but trash the entire program publiclly because they don't get
egrtegious financial increases, instead they're asked to be responsible.
Again, more lies & hypocrisy from your Democrat leaders. (This time from Ted
"Hey, Can't You Swim??!! Kennedy.)

Public education has become, not a venue for learning, but instead a means
of Socialist indoctrination. (This is from an ex-teacher, by ther way, who
quit in disgust.)

 

Yes, but they (or rather WE, as there's massive federal subsidies
there) have to pay people that much just to live to the north of
nowhere.

 

We'll believe you when you post a .PDF of your tax forms to a binary
group for our review. Until then, I'l have to put it this way:

I don't know all that much about your taxes, but I *do* know a lot
about bullshit. This sounds a lot more like bullshit to me.

 

The least populous state is Wyoming, which I thought had no income tax but
did have a sales tax. If you live there though I will accept your word on
it./

 

I saw on the news tonight that the poor girl (a college student) who
asked that question was made to ask it by CNN - she had her own serious
question ready, but they made her ask that one instead! Poor thing.
Wouldn't be surprised if she becomes a Republican over that after
finding out they couldn't care less about making her appear totally
stupid like that in order to benefit the party - you know - the party
that's supposed to care so much about people.

Bill Putney
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