Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

So you are...but not in chemistry...

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DAS
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The "Clinton econmy" did not magically begin the day Clinton took office and end
the day he left office. At least some of the good economic trends of the 90's
were the results of the economic policies of Bush I (which did include a big tax
increase) and some of the bad economic results of the early '00's were likewise
the results of the economic pollicies of Clinton.

Having said this - I personally think the Bush II tax cut was stupid and short
sighted, but that is just my opinion.

Ed

 

The dot.com bubble did *FAR* more to reduce the deficit.
Don't you remember that?
The investors were all in the dot.com bubble, and don't give a damn
about the deficit.

 

Rebates?
We're discussing tax increases, not rebates.

Oh, yes, it's clear now.

 

It's called REALITY, LLoyd. Try it sometime.

You haven't got the foggiest idea of what happened to the economy,
have you?
Ever hear of the dot.com bubble?

No, it doesn't.
History does not say that the tax increase helped the economy, only
that the increase happened after the economy started to expand.
That does not even suggest a connection between the two.

The economy started its expansion under Bush 1, and started its
collapse under Clinton.

You seem to think so.

 

How did Clinton effect the dot.com bubble?

 

If those jobs are in the government, they are non-productive.
They don't produce anything that can be sold, serviced, bought and
used.

 

How do you connect those two?
If one state gives its citizens rights and priviledges that another
state doesn't, how does that affect your being an American?

The Federal Government has no mandate about education. Look it up.
The Constitution very carefully defines the obligations of the
Government. It also is very explicit in saying that anything not
specifically defined as the province of the Federal Government, it is
then reserved to the states.

 

Not at all.
You responded with a non sequitor.
It matter not how many or few are affected by the tax in question.

 

What does science tell us about prior warming periods?

 

Workers bulding and maintaining roads are non-productive? Soldiers, sailors and
airmen defending our country are not providing a service? Agriculture inspectors
checking beef are not providing a service. Policeman fighting crime aren't
providing a service? The National Weather Service is non-productive?

Ed

 

Interesting.
Those who propose free choice are fascists.
Those who propose less governmental interference are fascists.
When I look up 'fascist', that's not even close to the definition I
get.

 

Actually, if the remedies being proposed will cause an upheaval in the
way we live, they'd damn well better find out of the remedies will
actually work.

Like I said, models can be made to say anything the makers want it to
say.
Including, in the short run, current conditions.
Since the current environment is fairly static in the short run, it's
easy to do this.

In industrialized nations.
Where do you think the production will go?

I *have* read much of it. And I'm not particularly impressed with
those who have an obvious bias against mankind.
When those scientists are able to divorce themselves from political
bias (including yourself), they will have much more credibility. As it
is, their science so reeks of politicization that their results are
open to much debate.
Especially when you come along and completely ignore past warming
periods, and act as if this one is somehow a freakish occurance, and
we are the cause.

 

Approximately 11/7/03 01:10, Lloyd Parker uttered for posterity:

 

Approximately 11/7/03 10:08, Bill Funk uttered for posterity:

Dinosaur farts. Increase in methane, essentially similar to that
of cow farts today, but on a much larger scale over millions of
years.

As for real effect on a system as large as that of the earth's,
Professor Lloyd P. is the only human dumb enough to fart while
standing at the cone of an active volcano and then attempt to
take credit for all of the sulfur stench.

 

No, of course not.
But until you rule out other causes, simply treating the virus can
leave you dead.
If you don't know the causes of prior warmings, how can you possibly
rule them out now?

 

Cows don't flatulate. They eructate. That is to say, cows don't fart. They
burp.


DS

 

And arrows. Specially the pointy ones ...

 

I am sure you know of many cases where the collective wisdom of the
scientists of the day proved to be wrong. <

Yeah, like in 1975 when they all said we were heading for the new ice age
due to, guess what, human industrial emissions ...we've been down this
(yawn) road before. See, Lloyd knows full well the "greenhous gas (bag)"
theorists are just that, however the THEORY suits the social revisonist
philosophy of him and his leftist buddies. So what if they're worng if they
can conficate more wealth and reengineer sociaty to suit their leftist
ideals.