Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. What Gore did in Florida was really insane. I think it stems from their
    incredulity at losing congress in '94 (along with their anger at Republicans
    impeaching Clinton). They have a sense of entitlement and moral superiority
    that aloows them to use whatever extreme measures are required to return
    themselves to their proper place in the seat of power.

    I think everyone to the right of the Democratic base gave a sigh of relief
    when Gore finally gave it up and gave another sight of relief after 9/11.
     
    David J. Allen, Nov 7, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Sorry, there is no evidence of your claim. The only scientific study, by
    Kellerman, shows just the opposite.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  3. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Sorry, but we're discussing greenhouse gases, and humans put out more each
    year than volcanoes.
    And your scientific degree is?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  4. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    They analyzed it.

    Not so.

    People are dead because fascists like you herded them into death camps.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  5. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Sorry, there's a $2 million exemption. And even then, the 50% tax doesn't
    come in until much higher levels.
    Lie. Less than 1% of all estates are subject to that.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  6. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    For half a million years, CO2 was around 280 ppm, without much variation. In
    the last 120 years, it's increased to 350 ppm.

    And you're not qualified to judge any science, are you?

    Your opinion on a scientific issue is as valid as mine on say, whether
    Chrysler should issue 30-year bonds or 20-year ones.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  7. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Since 2001, 12 governorships have gone from republican to democrat, and 12 the
    opposite.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  8. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Lowered the deficit, showed investors we were serious about getting our
    deficit under control.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  9. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    No proof.
    Yeah, it performed so much better after W's tax cut than after Clinton's tax
    increase, right?
    To say that it was defies history.
    Yeah, like it was under Bush I and Bush II.
    Is this what you think constitutes proof? Asserting something?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  10. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Doesn't being an American mean anything?
    No, but it's subjective what general welfare includes. To me and most
    Americans, it includes education, transportation, environmental protection,
    etc.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  11. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  12. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    If exercise caused your temp. to rise yesterday, does that mean a virus cannot
    cause it to do so today?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  13. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Actually, they don't need to. Something can have more than one cause. For
    example, your body temp. can rise due to many factors; just because factor A
    caused it to rise yesterday doesn't mean factor B can't be the cause today.
    The models now predict current conditions quite well; the test of a model.
    Shifts location? Huh? It would require cuts.
    Maybe if more people would read what the scientists say -- IPCC, EPA, NASA,
    NOAA, National Academy of Sciences, American Geophysical Union, etc. -- they'd
    know we already have "more facts." Reading right-wing web sites and thinking
    that constitutes science would be laughable if it were not such a pathetic
    commentary on the state of education today.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  14. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest


    Yeah, too bad we've got science on our side and you've got ignorance on yours.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  15. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Tell that to the anarchists (oops, "libertarians"), or those who claim all
    taxes are bad, or those who want no environmental protection, or those who
    want to let poor kids starve.

    Exactly. So why does every other western nation spend less per capita yet
    cover every person?
    Gee, if you work for Wal-Mart, your employer pays tax on the money they make,
    so you shouldn't have to pay taxes on the salary (double dipping). I've
    already paid taxes on my salary, so I shouldn't have to pay sales tax when I
    use it to buy something.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  16. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Really? Tell that to the states and cities that have done so. Tell that to
    the courts that have ruled they can do so.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  17. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    First, it was.

    The government spends that money; it doesn't just tuck it in a mattress.

    Care to compare the Clinton economy to that of Bush I or II?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  18. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    It's just like a right-winger to have not read the constitution. Article I,
    section 8, pal. Read the constitution!
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  19. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    No, the recount was halted.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
  20. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    1. You might learn something.
    2. There's a lot of expertise that comes from having an advanced degree in
    science, or from working with a group like IPCC or NOAA.
    Well, you'd have to be well-versed in science before you can make that
    judgment, wouldn't you?
    I see. So you'd no more trust an MD to do brain surgery than an auto
    mechanic?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Nov 7, 2003
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