Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

He seems to have a knack for it, glad I'm not arguing against him.

 

Thanks

But I have to admit, this is the product of experience. First,
Dr. Parker has been around the auto groups longer than I can
remember so that's old hat. Secondly, I spent a trial by fire in
politics er sci.environment where I learned the hard way how
left-wingers masquading as environmentalists work. I had been
naive and thought it was science group.

 

Know it well, I did not know the same people were responsible for CAFE.
But it figures. It's the same sort of half-assed job without thinking
it through. One of these days I should estimate how much extra fuel
is burned due to CAFE by calculating what could be saved using large
passenger cars instead (assuming a 15% market slice for light trucks as
it was before CAFE of course). hmmm....

I've stated it before though, emissions regs required better control
systems and better control systems lead to better fuel economy. A
simplification of course, as in some areas emissions and fuel economy
can conflict. (lean burn, NOx, etc...)

 

Its actually 101% when you include the death taxes.

 

But I have to admit, this is the product of experience. First,

thought it was science group.>

Never confuse environmentalists with science, they have repeatedly proven
themselves to be radical Socialists in green clothing!

 

Its actually 101% when you include the death taxes.>

LOL!

What Lloyd doesn;t want anyone to understand is that when your employer pays
your Social Security taxes, in round numbers he pays around 13%, half paid
by you and shown on your paycheck stub, the other half withheld from your
TRUE SALARY/WAGES and paid by the employer. In other words, the employer
shows the additional 6.2% as part of your your true compensation on his
books. Lloyd thinks it's a tax on the employer, but it's not, it's a tax on
YOU. That's why self-employed persons get the joyous honor of paying the
WHOLE amount, with the second half called "self-employment tax" on the 1040,
another piece of subterfuge your liberal tax & spend eleceted
representatives concocted back in the '70's when they wrote this entire scam
tax code.

Lloyd and the other leftists think everyone's too stupid to figure this all
out, but it's actually very easy to unravel it using a program like Turbo
Tax....

 

If only things worked that way.

Ed

 

Sarcasm, right? 8^)

I always get a kick out of hearing reports that such-and-such a city has
too much ozone (considered a pollutant). Whenever I hear such reports,
I rush to that city and discharge a couple of cans of R12 to neutralize
the ozone - what do they claim - 10 to 1 effectiveness? Just trying to
do my part to save the world.

Bill Putney
(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with "x")

 

"And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?"
Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the results of
Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.

 

LLoyd, please crop your messages... as for "Yes, but you right-wingers
obviously do not know what a socialist is." please use the more
politically-correct term for "right-wingers"... that would be
"correct-wingers"

 

At a federal level? YES. STATES should do that, NOT the feds... But why
listen to what the "founding fathers" wanted...

 

And what the Dems never acknowledge is the fact that Floridas votes were
recounted again after Bush was declared the winner, every vote was counted,
no matter how poorly marked, and it gave Bush more votes than the final
official count had given him.

 

"Explain how increased taxes improve the economy."
It improves the economy by starting a recession (ex. the Clinton
Recession)... see the logic I followed there??

 

Those damn corrupt republicans!!! The damn corrupt republicans also kept
that news out of the mainstream press that is obviously conservative...

 

Hello??? LLLLLOYD are you published in your field of expertise?? I am, are
you?????

 

"But I bet you understood what I menat in the first place....didn't you?"
Nope, thought you were being stoopid... sorry!

 

I was listening to NLPR (National Liberal Public Radio) earlier today
and they ahd a piece on how certain groups were disenchanted with the
electoral process because of the supposed problems in Florida (see
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1493747 ). They had
numerous people talk about how they were certain that their ballots had
been incorrectly marked and that their votes weren't counted. The funny
thing was, the only people that seemed to have problems voting in
Florida were trying to vote for Gore. I find it hard to believe that the
system was so out of whack that only people voting for Gore had hanging
chads, or voted for the wrong person, or couldn't get to the polls, or
had to wait in long lines. They interviewed one person who claimed that
the poll worker told her she had actually voted for Bucannon when she
meant to vote for Gore and then refused to give her a new ballot.
Apparently not a single Bush voter accidently voted for Nader or had any
problem with the ballots or had to wait in lines.

Ed

 

Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the results
of Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.>

Actually it looks like the ORIGINAL results were accurate & valid!

The Democrats proved their disegenuousness when they only wanted to recout
three heavily Democratic counties. Worse, with a perfectly straight face
they had Bill Daley act as their spokesperson! For those too young to
remember, Daley is the son of the late Richard J. Daley, mayor of Chicago in
the 50's & 60's. Daley stole the 1960 election for Kennedy, which had a much
closer National vote count than 2000, only 100,000 difference. Daley's
Democratic machine created massive voter fraud, people voted twice, dead
people voted, Hell, dead people's DOGS voted. Hence the old Chicago saying
"vote early, vote often!"

No, old Al Gore screwed himself and the entire Democrat party by what he
did, and the public hasn't forgotten. By the way, Texas has only recently
become a Republican state. The Democrats have controlled politics there
since the 1870's, and their latest trick to keep from accepting reality was
to LEAVE THE STATE! Some representation!

 

damn you gerald....will you let this useless thread die already?

 

Thanks! Of course these are old arguments. Lloyd's arguments look like
cut/paste jobs from previous posts he's made. He always says the same thing
over and over. And he always degenerates to name calling....
"right-winger", "fascist", "hate-monger", etc. or self-agrandizement being
that he's such an intelligent guy....Phd and all.... "What are YOUR
credentials?" or "Take a science class!". What's good about that is it's a
chance for those of us on the other side of the idealogical divide to home
in on a fixed target.

Nonetheless, I believe he really enjoys it. He's been doing this for years
and he always gets beat-up and then comes back for more!