Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest


    Ahh yes, more support for my theory that baseball is responsible for
    global warming! After all didn't baseball get started around the middle
    of the 19th century. Didn't global warming really begin to accelerate as
    professional teams were formed? And look at the most recent spike -
    doesn't it correlate well to the addition of the Marlins, Diamondbacks,
    and Devil Rays? Adding hot weather teams was obviously the stray that
    will destroy our climate. At all cost we must keep the Expos out of
    Puerto Rico.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Oct 30, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    This isn't even right. There was no cost calculation related directly to
    the Pinto and it wasn't necessarily a seat belt bolt that ruptured the
    tank. There were supposedly three modes of failure that could cause a
    problem - 1) the fuel tank was shoved into the rear axle or body
    hardware and ruptured, 2) the fuel filler tube pulled out of the tank
    during a violent crash and fuel spilled from the opening in the side of
    the tank, and 3) the fuel filler detached from the body leaving the gas
    cap behind and fuel spilled from the open tube. Early Pintos were
    recalled and fitted with three things to address these problem - 1) a
    polyethylene shield that wrapped around the bottom of the tank and up to
    the front to reduce potential damage from the rear axle or body
    hardware, 2) a longer filler pipe, and 3) a reinforcement ring and
    security screws to secure the filler neck to the body. I was very
    familiar with the fixes (we owned two Pintos). Also I worked at Ford for
    a brief period during the peak of the trial hysteria. You would not
    believe how many perfectly good cars Ford crashed in order to gather
    supporting evidence for the trial. I particularly lusted after the
    remains of a Datsun 240Z they crashed. Unfortunately truth and justice
    had little or nothing to do with the outcome of the trial. Ford lost and
    we all pay.

    Regards,

    Ed White
     
    C. E. White, Oct 30, 2003
  3. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Brent P Guest

    All we need is a plot of baseball games played vs. global mean temp.

    Oh and to add to this, according to the global warming true believers
    it really started ramping up in the post war years.... this fits the
    baseball model as the sport was introduced to new populations.

    We just need to gather all this baseball data and plot it agains mann,
    1998. :)
     
    Brent P, Oct 30, 2003
  4. Your welcome. I remember it very well myself. I've mentioned it to Lloyd
    before, he always said I was lying, there was no proof any scientist had
    made such a claim. This article proves LP wrong again, it names names, even
    National Academy of Sciences and NOAA. And as expected, not a word From
    Lloyd about it. He must really hate being proven wrong on every statement
    he makes. ;-) >

    LOL! I remember this "new ice age" scam well, I was in Collee at the time
    and all the Socialist faculty were flapping their gloom & doom gums about
    it, claiming if we didn't all stsrt driving VWs we'd all freeze to death
    come 1990.Typical hogwash, sure glad you posted the link.

    BTW, read today's USA Today. It has a prominent piece on how the gas (bag)
    theorists pet study from the '80's has been proven faulty and that theris no
    evidence global average temps of the second half of the 20th century were
    anything but perfectly normal. (Notice how quiet Lloyd's been today?)
     
    Gerald G. McGeorge, Oct 30, 2003
  5. The more you nail this stuff, Doug, the more ranting you'll hear!
     
    Gerald G. McGeorge, Oct 30, 2003
  6. Great reply, Brent. Ask Ted Kennedy & his Hyannisport chums why they're
    blocking off shore wind turbines. Just another bunch of Liberal NIMBY
    hypocrites.
     
    Gerald G. McGeorge, Oct 30, 2003
  7. Gerald G. McGeorge, Oct 30, 2003
  8. ROFLMAO!!!!!

    Boy, that poor bastard who got in the way of the foul ball will be hunted
    down like a dirty scoundrel now for not only causing the Cubs loss, but
    causing global warming as well!!!!
     
    Gerald G. McGeorge, Oct 30, 2003
  9. Ed, you have so precisely nailed this issue it stands as a breakthrough and
    must be published in all scientific journals. I predict you will soon be not
    only rich, but famous as well. (You will be forced to share royalties with
    Lloyd, however, for his contributions to your thought processes.)
     
    Gerald G. McGeorge, Oct 30, 2003
  10. This is pointless to debate with you, I'd be arguing with a close-minded
    leftist green zealot. Fact is, none of these global catastrophe hypotheses
    hold water, but they sure make great copy in the leftist controlled media.

    Look, we'd all like live in an environmentally pure world, but it can't
    happen unless we all head back to the caves, go back to eating grass & dung
    and have 15 year life expectancies. No one endorses poisoning water or air,
    but when looney tunes start distorting facts to claim saying we're warming
    the planet with life sustaining gasses someone's got to challenge this
    tripe. Their real agenda is clear, and Kyoto proves it.

    Now, for political reasons it might be a good idea to stop depending upon
    middle east oil. To do that in the short term we'd have to tap our own oil
    sources, like off shore, ANWAR, etc. Would the greens support this? Hell no!
    They'd prefer total and complete economic dislocation of developed nations
    because their vision is some ludicrous "citizens of the world" salvation for
    the planet. It's a complete load of crap and sensible people have had enough
    of it.

    So, now, what happens when we begin to deploy massive numbers of solar
    panels around the world, how is the environment going to cope with all that
    HEAT??? Well, none of the greens want to answer that question, nor can they
    address where all the space will come from to actually deploy these things.
    Solar power is hugely inefficient in terms of it's actual power generation
    capability vs. space requirements, and production of solar panels is hugely
    toxic.

    Next, where, pray tell, will we place all of the so-called "green" wind
    generating stations, hmmmm???? Oh, not anywhere near a green's home, no sir,
    too unsightly, threatening to birds and the noise, WELL!!!

    When greens get off their anti-society high horses and start working for
    real conservation maybe then there can be some discourse. All I know is that
    for over 30 years the same zealots have been waving their arms and flapping
    their gums yet have not proposed a single realistic solution. As it is now,
    no one can drill, mine, cut, dam, etc. All venues are off and the greens
    can't propose a single alternative save go live in yurt by the river
    somewhere and live on sprouts. Give me a break!
     
    Gerald G. McGeorge, Oct 30, 2003
  11. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Here's one of the fools:
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
  12. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    And another fool:
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
  13. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    More BS:
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
  14. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
  15. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Did he have them in 2003? If so, where are they?
    Which turned out to be a lie.
    Where are they?
    "Has" is present tense. Where are they?
    The one given to us by Bush.
    Yes, thank goodness our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity under
    Clinton is over.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
  16. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Same old, same old.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
  17. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Another fool proudly showing off his ignorance:
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
  18. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Uh, if a jury didn't buy it, how can you say Ford "proved" it?

    Too bad their own internal documents not only contradicted this, but talked
    about how many deaths would be worth not installing a part costing a few
    cents.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
  19. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Another fool who believes what he reads on right-wing web sites:
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
  20. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Like saying maybe death causes cancer.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 30, 2003
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