Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Uh, that's 'torsional' stiffness, Lloyd.
Keep up.

 

Plenty decent that runs on diesel, they're just not released in the US cause
petrol is so cheap and people don't buy em.

rhys

 

That's lloyd's politics, and that clouds everything he posts.

What actually happened, started before 1976. With the gasoline crunches
people started buying imported cars with different characteristics
in handling, braking, etc. When all that ended people stayed with them.
The big three had to react, government or not.

Now let's say the big three never reacted and managed to stay in business.
We'd still be able to buy the kinds of cars we have today from the
overseas manufacturers.

But what would have really happened without CAFE? I think we'd have
some really great choices in I6 and V8 RWD cars. Basically the kinds
of cars ford and GM offer in Austrailia.

 

yeah, lets:
http://money.cnn.com/pf/autos/features/mileage/page3.html

 

Maybe.

I often wonder why some people have far worse experience than others,
all the while claiming that they are doing everything right.

 

Ah, yes.
The standard Liberal resposte: "That can't be so, becasue it doesn't
adhere to my ideas."

 

Don't you find it odd that Dr. Parker drives a MB, yet favors CAFE?
What is MB's CAFE rating these days anyway?

 

Quite true of course. But a moron in an econobox represents a much
smaller danger than a moron in a behemoth.

Lisa

 

Care to cite any proof of this? I see more moron driving econoboxes making
unsafe maneuvers in traffic than I see morons doing the same in SUVs. Two times
this morning alone, I saw small cars force there way from the extreme left lane
into the extreme right lane to make a last minute exit. I saw no SUVs doing
this. So I conclude econobox morons are for more dangerous than SUV morons.
Prove me wrong.

Ed

 

Rutinely I have drivers of light trucks try to force their way in with
their bigger vehicles. Happened as recently as saturday night to me when
an SUV driver decided that my smaller vehicle was who he was going to
shove aside to cut into the queue at the toll booth. He could have tried
this move on the two *BIGGER* SUVs in front of me and been a couple
slots further up but didn't. I made it so he'd have to hit me to take my
spot, so he found someone else behind me to intimidate.

I see people doing what you describe and cutting off other drivers
equally between passenger cars and light trucks.

 

Read what I wrote again Parker. Keep in mind Pintos and Vegas were
introduced in 1971 *BEFORE* the crunches.

 

I know what you're implying, but my driving style in trucks and SUVs SHOULD
maximize gas mileage. In contrast, my driving style in cars SHOULD minimize
gas mileage. Since the exact opposite is true, I'd have to conclude that
trucks (and truck-based SUVs) have somewhat optimistic EPA estimates and
cars have somewhat pessimistic EPA estimates. -Dave

 

Godwin's law - proposed addendum:

"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be treated in
the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

: In article <>,
: >
: >
: >Bill Putney wrote:
: >>
: >> Dave Milne wrote:
: >> >
: >> > I'd rather incompetents were banned full stop.
: >>
: >> Repeating what I put in another post, the liberals would *never* allow
: >> that. Can't you hear their reasoning now: "By keeping an incompetent
: >> driver off the road, you would in effect be punishing his/her innocent
: >> children. Therefore it would be better to let the incompetent parents
: >> continue to drive without restriction. A few more people might be
: >> killed as a result, but at least the innocent children would not be
: >> punished."
: >>
: >
: >Nonsense. I'm definitely liberal, or beyond, and I strongly support
: >tougher licensing requirements.
: >
:
: Of course, right-wing radicals like Putney and bin Laden just have to spew
: hatred.

 

BMW 530d will do 151mph ..

Diesels *can* be very quick: The prototype 3-litre Mercedes C111/3 attained
203.3 mph in tests on the Nardo Circuit Southern Italy,on 5-15th oct 1978,
maintaining an average speed of 195.4 mph over a 12 hour period, covering a
record distance of 2344 miles

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

: >
: > There is nothing decent that runs on diesel. By definition.
: >
:
: Man oh man did you step in it that time. -Dave
:
:

 

It's a conspiracy, right?

 

What a shocker that is. Who would have guessed.

 

9/11.

That's true, he never once claimed that.

 

To borrow a phrase from you Lloyd, your lying.
And it isn't even a convincing lie.

 

The same vehicle will get different milages with different drivers, just as
two identical vehicles can get different milages with the same driver. Many
variables come into play. I get 17.6 on the interstate, 12.5 around town in
a 3/4 ton 4x4, which I consider good for the type of vehicle it is.