Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Sign posts yield. Telephone poles essentially don't, at least at SUV
    size. And because the force is concentrated over a small area, they
    can be more dangerous than your standard bridge abutment.
     
    Matthew Russotto, Oct 20, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    Different driving styles, I suppose.
    Maybe you're one of those who drive SUVs as if they were sports cars?
    :)
     
    Bill Funk, Oct 20, 2003
  3. Not anymore, because they want it raised to 40 or more.
     
    Matthew Russotto, Oct 20, 2003
  4. There is nothing decent that runs on diesel. By definition.
     
    Matthew Russotto, Oct 20, 2003
  5. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Marc Guest

    But damage to the roads is more a function of weight. A loaded 18 wheeler
    does much more damage than the sum of small cars that add up to the same
    weight. How do you take that into account as well?

    Marc
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    Marc, Oct 20, 2003
  6. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Marc Guest

    Try reading the sentence after the one you took out of context.

    Marc
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    Marc, Oct 20, 2003
  7. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Marc Guest

    I never claimed that. You are lying again.
    It passed the required emissions tests while getting 6 mpg.

    Marc
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    Marc, Oct 20, 2003
  8. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Marc Guest

    Yes. Very few of the large number of crashes per year, but still a
    reasonably large number by itself.
    I'll agree. Inattention and stupidity are by far the two primary causes.
    And, given that you hit something immobile or the same size as you, size
    doesn't matter, then there would be some safety (even if small) if everyone
    was in a more nimble vehicle.

    Of course, the feds like to comment on pedacyclist impacts as well, which
    are safer for the pedacyclists if the vehicle is shorter and rounder, but
    those numbers are relatively small as well.

    Marc
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    Marc, Oct 20, 2003
  9. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Yeah, the same ones who miss carburetors, manual chokes, drum brakes. The
    ones who think NASCAR is high-tech.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 20, 2003
  10. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    No, there always have to be limitations, for the good of society.
    So you'd let people drive vehicles that pollute?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 20, 2003
  11. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

     
    Lloyd Parker, Oct 20, 2003
  12. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Torsional rigidity has very little to do with crush, of course.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Oct 20, 2003
  13. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Dave C. Guest

    And I really miss those 5000-lb lumbering land yachts. Lots of other people
    do, too. They are now SUV owners. -Dave
     
    Dave C., Oct 20, 2003
  14. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Dave C. Guest

    Actually, I baby the heck out of trucks and SUVs as I know they don't handle
    well. In contrast, I drive cars like I HATE them. Maybe I should start
    driving my 2003 4.0L 4X4 Ranger like it is a sports car, and see if the
    mileage improves? :) -Dave
     
    Dave C., Oct 20, 2003
  15. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Dave C. Guest

    Man oh man did you step in it that time. :) -Dave
     
    Dave C., Oct 20, 2003
  16. It seems the solution to a long life is not only not driving much,
    Reminds me of a news clipping that was put up at my church. It cited
    the low accident rate of church services and that what injuries that did
    happen were minor. the running joke was that if you wanted to stay safe and
    healthy, go to church.

    Mike
     
    Mike Borkhuis, Oct 20, 2003
  17. Dianelos Georgoudis

    C. E. White Guest

    I don't know about all the vehicles on your list, but I do know that Expeditions
    get better than 10 mpg. I have owned 2 (1997 and 2003), both 4x4, 3.73 gears and
    5.4L engines, and I have never gotten mileage as bad as 10 mpg. The 1997 averaged
    15 mpg over 149,000 miles. The 2003 is averaging close to 16 over 35,000 miles. CU
    averaged 12 overall and 15 on their 150 mile trip. I have no idea what they did to
    claim an 8 mpg city average. I drive mine in bumper to bumper traffic 5 days a
    week and have never dropped below 14 mpg. Heck the 1997 averaged over 16 pulling a
    24 foot sailboat down I-95.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Oct 20, 2003
  18. Nope. Your suggestion is ridiculous (as you know) and doesn't change
    the truthfulness of my statement.

    pete fagerlin

    ::Revolutionary! Evolutionary! Yet so retro!
    ::www.yestubes.com
     
    P e t e F a g e r l i n, Oct 20, 2003
  19. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    It isn't odd at all that you completely ignore market pressures, and
    instead think that the Government is the instigator of all innovation.
    People like you tend to think that way.

    You're wrong, though.
     
    Bill Funk, Oct 20, 2003
  20. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    And what would the buyers have done then?
    Gone to >8000lb trucks?

    You don't seem to want to let others do what they see as needed,
    instead wanting to decide for everyone what they should have.
    Why should you get to do that?
    Maybe you should look into moving to China or Cuba, where your talents
    may actually be in demand. They are really into deciding how the
    people should live there.
     
    Bill Funk, Oct 20, 2003
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