Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Chuckles Guest

    You don't mind crossposting, yet you criticize others. HA!
     
    Chuckles, Dec 10, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Chuckles Guest

    Your posts are not on topic either "Lon Stowell".
     
    Chuckles, Dec 10, 2003
  3. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Chuckles Guest

    Follow Lon Stowell's example! He is a crossposting guru.
     
    Chuckles, Dec 10, 2003
  4. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Chuckles Guest

    It was good enough to convince YOU to reply, self appointed netcop.
     
    Chuckles, Dec 10, 2003
  5. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    That seems to be what others are saying, too.
    Thanks.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 10, 2003
  6. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    You are, again, confusing being able to *exercise* a right, with the
    right existing.
    You're beginning to catch on.
    No, it means it can't be exercised.
    Note the word "recognized".
    The right to life existed, even in Iraq.
    The problem was, the government refused to recognize it.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 10, 2003
  7. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    If you really don't understand what "right to life" means, there's a
    definite lack in your education.
    Again, you are still confusing the existance of a right with being
    able to exercize that right.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 10, 2003
  8. I mean they were punished for using that right. CD burning parties?
    Banned from radio stations?
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    Brandon Sommerville
    remove ".gov" to e-mail

    Definition of "Lottery":
    Millions of stupid people contributing
    to make one stupid person look smart.
     
    Brandon Sommerville, Dec 10, 2003
  9. If it's not recognized then you don't really have it, do you?
    --
    Brandon Sommerville
    remove ".gov" to e-mail

    Definition of "Lottery":
    Millions of stupid people contributing
    to make one stupid person look smart.
     
    Brandon Sommerville, Dec 10, 2003
  10. Dianelos Georgoudis

    George Guest

    They weren't punished at all. Their former fans have the exact same
    rights - and they exercised them!
     
    George, Dec 10, 2003
  11. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    They discovered that what you say has consequences.
    The first amendment does not mean that what you say won't piss people
    off; it says that the government isn't allowed to muzzle you if you
    do.
    Last I heard, radio stations have the right to determine their own
    playlists, and individuals have the right to buy the CDs they want to
    buy. Nothing that even remotely violates the first amendment there.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 10, 2003
  12. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    It's obvious that you don't think there are any rights other than
    those granted by governments.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 10, 2003
  13. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/9/03 22:09, Bill Funk's monkeys randomly typed:
    Di Nada.
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 10, 2003
  14. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/10/03 05:45, Brandon Sommerville's monkeys randomly typed:
    Just the pictures.
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 11, 2003
  15. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Putney Guest

    Geeze, Brandon! If that's your take on it, you haven't a clue about
    what rights are, and are not even competent to discuss the subject. If
    they were arrested when they returned back to American soil and put in
    jail for it, then, YES, that would have violated their freedom of
    speech. But for me to burn their CD, or if I refuse to play their songs
    on my radio station!? Give me a break. Some of your other stuff has
    just shown weak-mindedness, but this - woof!

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 11, 2003
  16. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/10/03 17:48, Bill Putney's monkeys randomly typed:
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 11, 2003
  17. Managed care has it's shortcomings, but one has to remember that the more
    you understand how it works the more likely you are to get what you need.
    My experience has been that they resist referrals to specialists and
    expensive tests. But you can get the referrals you need by pusing back.
    It's true they incentivize doctors for minimizing referrals, and if you just
    rollover and whine, well.... that's what you get. If you understand how the
    system works, which is not easy, and push for what you think you need you
    can get it most likely. I don't really care for it, but on the positve
    side, it does lower costs.
     
    David J. Allen, Dec 11, 2003
  18. I think it will.... eventually.

    I don't think one needs to be "religious" to be good person or have a good
    marriage, but the roots of virtue are religious.
    No.. Never said that.
    The decisive element isn't a church. Marriage has religious roots and it
    benefits society precisely because of it. Not because participants are
    necessarily religious.
     
    David J. Allen, Dec 11, 2003
  19. For me, it's not about gays per se. It's important to understand what
    marriage is and means to society in general, in the macro sense. It's
    meaningfulness isn't necessarily evident on an individual level. Redefining
    it for gays or whoever, who's agenda in doing so isn't anything other than
    to normalize the institution for a variety of lifestyles, none of which are
    consistent with the the legacy of marriage or it's meaningfulness, is bad
    medicine.

    The nature of marriage and it's effect on society over generations, I
    believe, is very significant. What would our society be like in a few
    generations of marriage normalized for different lifestyles? Hard to say.
    I can see government becoming a stumbling block for traditional family and
    marriage by adding/removing rights/responsibilities based on the needs and
    demands of "the married"; traditionalists would become isolated to that
    extent.

    I think gay marriage would be fertile ground for unintended consequenses.
    Marriage is relevent in the traditional sense. It doesn't make sense for
    same sex other than a statement or "cause".
     
    David J. Allen, Dec 11, 2003
  20. The plus-50 percent failure rate of marriage as currently defined gives
    lie to this statement.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 11, 2003
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