Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/9/03 10:34, Brandon Sommerville's monkeys randomly typed:
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/9/03 10:34, Brandon Sommerville's monkeys randomly typed:
    I don't suppose you could turn your attention to off-topic
    crossposting?
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
  3. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/9/03 10:53, Bill Funk's monkeys randomly typed:
    ...neither is off-topic crossposting.
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
  4. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    Equal access means that all have the same access to healthcare.
    Healthcare for all means that everyone has access to healthcare.
    You're describing the latter.
    It's not equal access that is essential, but access.
    Equal access is what a non-competitive governmental health system
    provides.
    Access for all can be provided by a supplemental governmental system,
    which still allows universal (for everyone) access, but not *equal*
    access (meaning that one can, if able, get faster service, or services
    not possible under the governmental system).
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 9, 2003
  5. How do you define "right to life"? Without a government willing to
    back it up, life is pretty cheap.
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    Brandon Sommerville
    remove ".gov" to e-mail

    Definition of "Lottery":
    Millions of stupid people contributing
    to make one stupid person look smart.
     
    Brandon Sommerville, Dec 9, 2003
  6. Then as I understand it, Canada has equal access for essential health
    care needs, with health care for all beyond the essentials.
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    Brandon Sommerville
    remove ".gov" to e-mail

    Definition of "Lottery":
    Millions of stupid people contributing
    to make one stupid person look smart.
     
    Brandon Sommerville, Dec 9, 2003
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    Bill Funk Guest

    Hogwash; if they are meaningless without the means to protect them,
    then why do so many insist that they have them?
    More hogwash.
    You are actually trying to tell us that, without government, no rights
    exist.
    You are confusing governmental protection of rights with the rights
    themselves.
    If it doesn't stop it, then the government doesn't protect the rights.
    Therefore they don't exist, according to you.
    Very wrong.
    It may be that it's a fairly recent idea that the lives of the
    subjects of a government don't belong to the leader, but that does not
    mean that there was never a right to live. Instead, it means that
    right wasn't recognized.
    Following your logic, Saddam Hussein was within his rights to kill any
    of his subjects he saw fit to kill.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 9, 2003
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    Lon Stowell Guest

    [brissed]
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
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    Lon Stowell Guest

    [clipped]
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
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    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/9/03 11:36, Brandon Sommerville's monkeys randomly typed:
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
  11. Because they want to live.
    What rights do you have in an anarchy? Does a right mean anything if
    no one can back up that right?
    Nonsense. 100% success isn't required. By that logic freedom of
    speech would be dead in the US. Is it? Ask the Dixie Chicks or Bill
    Maher about freedom of speech.
    Which means the right is meaningless.
    According to his own rules he was. Doesn't make it defensible or
    good, but he recognized no rights beyond his own.
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    Brandon Sommerville
    remove ".gov" to e-mail

    Definition of "Lottery":
    Millions of stupid people contributing
    to make one stupid person look smart.
     
    Brandon Sommerville, Dec 9, 2003
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    Lon Stowell Guest

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    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
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    Steve Guest

    Lon Stowell wrote:


    25 of the 30-odd replies to this frickin' thread that showed up when I
    opened my browser.

    <Shrek>

    What yer doin is the OPPOSITE of helpin'!

    </Shrek>
     
    Steve, Dec 9, 2003
  14. You have an HMO. There's a reason HMO plans cost a lot less than
    other health insurance plans, and that reason is that generally, they
    suck.
     
    Matthew Russotto, Dec 9, 2003
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    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/9/03 13:53, Matthew Russotto's monkeys randomly typed:
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
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    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/9/03 13:53, Matthew Russotto's monkeys randomly typed:
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
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    Lon Stowell Guest

    Roughly 12/9/03 15:56, Bill Putney's monkeys randomly typed:
     
    Lon Stowell, Dec 9, 2003
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Are you trying to say that the Dixie Chicks' right to freedom of speech
    was violated? If that's what you're saying, then please explain how.
    If you're not saying that, then I misread your point (entirely
    possible).

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 9, 2003
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    Chuckles Guest

    You don't mind YOUR crossposting, yet you criticize others. Hypocrite.
     
    Chuckles, Dec 10, 2003
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    Chuckles Guest

    unless posted by Lon Stowell.
     
    Chuckles, Dec 10, 2003
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