Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. The folks who argued against it 50 years ago claimed that was exactly what
    it did. They used the selfsame language you're using now against same-sex
    marriage.

    When mixed-race marriage is being discussed, it's a marriage issue.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 6, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Greg Guest

    Fine. But if ending discrimination is the goal, than why should siblings be
    prevented from marriage? What if they want to get all of these legal marriage
    benifits? Either marriage is between a man and a woman, or it is not. And it if
    is not, than there are others besides gays that deserve its benefits. Because if
    banning marriage of gays is discriminatory, than banning marriage of consenting
    adults in parties greater than two etc. certainly is too.
     
    Greg, Dec 6, 2003
  3. Clear and present public health reasons.
    Is this supposed to be scary and/or threatening? If so, why? Or is it just
    another one of those things that you think should be illegal because you
    think it's icky or whatever and it's been that way for as long as you can
    remember?

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 6, 2003
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    Dave Milne Guest

    Daniel, Greg, Lloyd.

    *Please* remove rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys from your discussions. We
    really are not interested.
    I'm asking this in the nicest possible way.

    David.
     
    Dave Milne, Dec 6, 2003
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    Jerry McG Guest

    Of course they would, and Lloyd & his leftist pals would still be singing
    their praises. Naturally, Lloyd would have preferred the commies to still
    rule Russia and the rest of Eastern Europe, indeed he'd have danced in the
    streets when Soviet tanks rolled across West Germany and on into France.
    With the demise of all democracies Lloyd's true "worker's paradise" would be
    at hand...and if anyone dared to speak up his comie pals would either kill
    them on the spot or send them off to the Gulags with the rest of the
    reactionaries.
     
    Jerry McG, Dec 6, 2003
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    Bill Putney Guest

    But the idea of a gay "couple" being officially married is almost as
    ridiculous according to the established and recognized definition of
    marriage. Either the difinition allows gays to be married or it
    doesn't. Either it allows a man to marry a dog or it doesn't. We might
    as well get off this one as neither one of us is gonna budge.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 6, 2003
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Very Lloyd-like.
    Nice try at illogic - those are inherited traits, specifically *NOT*
    activities.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 6, 2003
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    Bill Putney Guest


    You dodged the question, Lloyd, I mean, Dan. His examples are more
    realistic than (not ridicuouls like) my man-dog and man-tree examples.
    So why don't the other examples of potential married couples or groups
    have as much validity as gay "couples". You want to discriminate
    against those others.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 6, 2003
  9. It has nothing to do with that. If the need is urgent, they deal with
    it immediately. If it's not urgent, then other people who have either
    a) been waiting longer or b) have more urgent needs get seen to first.
    I think that the biggest problem that the unified health plan has is
    that people like Lloyd are promoting it.
    --
    Brandon Sommerville
    remove ".gov" to e-mail

    Definition of "Lottery":
    Millions of stupid people contributing
    to make one stupid person look smart.
     
    Brandon Sommerville, Dec 6, 2003
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    Bill Funk Guest

    You're completely missing what I'm saying.
    Probably on purpose.

    Tha Taliban not only allowed the gov't to accfdept the fact that
    religion forms a strong part of many people's lives, but it went far
    further: it drcreed HOW that religion would be a strong part of their
    lives.
    I'm not advocating anything of the sort.
    But you knew that; you simply over-reated to an idea that didn't fit
    *YOUR* idea of how religion should (or shouldn't) be recognized.
    Gee, it seems that YOU are far more closely allied to the ideas of the
    Taliban than I am, since you want to dictate far more than I do.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
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    DTJ Guest

    Homosexuality is a mental disorder. Until the liberal left decided to
    force the issue by declaring it was genetic, even though there is
    proof it is not genetic.

    So go ahead and spout you faggot views, intelligent people know
    better.
     
    DTJ, Dec 6, 2003
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    Bill Funk Guest

    It's really a shame that you feel that way.
    I can only suppose, then, that you have nothing to do with
    corportations, including buying no products from them, accepting no
    part of your offered salary that's provided by them, etc.
    Am I right?
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
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    DTJ Guest

    They are no more ridiculous than ass fucking another man.
     
    DTJ, Dec 6, 2003
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Lloyd's never had to turn a profit in his life, nor has his employer,
    and he looks down on people who have to sully their hands doing so.
    It's called "elitism"..

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 6, 2003
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    Bill Funk Guest

    The amendment is actually pretty specific about just what rights are
    covered where:
    "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
    construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

    It shouldn't take the Supreme Court to determine which rights are
    enumerated int he Constitution, especially for the intent of the
    amendment. Such rights are either enumerated (specifically listed) or
    they aren't.
    As far as the actual intent is concerned, it's pretty well understood,
    becasuse we have the writings (and arguments) of not only the
    authors/proponents, but also the arguments of those opposed, through
    contemporary writings.

    Google will provide many sites that can show this.
    Of course, Lloyd seems to think that this will only produce right-wing
    sites, so he won't even try using Google.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
  16. Looks like the problems of central control have hit you in the face --
    but you still can't see them.
     
    Matthew Russotto, Dec 6, 2003
  17. Are you sure?

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 6, 2003
  18. *shrug* That's neither here nor there. It's convenient shorthand for those
    who wish to codify their religious beliefs so as to enforce them upon
    those whose beliefs differ. That's all.
    People who are six-foot-four usually duck when passing through low
    doorways or staircases with low-drop headers. People who have blue eyes
    usually put on sunglasses before people with brown eyes. Those are
    behaviors (or "activities") springing from their being 6'4" or blue-eyed,
    respectively.

    Surely you're not *really* so crass as to believe that all heterosexual
    sex is an expression of love while all homosexual sex is simply an
    "activity"...are you?

    DS
     
    Daniel J Stern, Dec 6, 2003
  19. ....you and your ilk. Best get used to the idea; it will happen. Maybe not
    tomorrow and maybe not by 2006, but it will happen within my lifetime and
    probably within yours, as well.

    DS
     
    Daniel J Stern, Dec 6, 2003
  20. If you want to start regulating marriage based on the specific sexual acts
    engaged in, you have a *large* job ahead of you, and your work will by no
    means be confined to homosexuals.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 6, 2003
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