Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    Read what Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs, has to say
    about VA healthcare:
    http://www.fra.org/mil-up/milup-archive/8-01-02-milup.html
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    No, the VA is not a for profit system.
    This is actually a result of the gov't failing to follow through on
    the contract it made with servicemen.
    Why people think the same gov't will follow through on a similar
    contract with all citizens is beyond me.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
  3. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    I never said I'd prefer anything else.
    And I never even hinted that I wanted to impose my religious beliefs
    on others.
    I point out a fact, and you immediately try to make me say something
    else. Typical of you when something you don't like is said.
    Why not just admit that you're wrong instead of putting yourself in
    the position of looking so dumb?
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
  4. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    Lloyd lives in a fantasy world where everyone adheres to his set of
    preconceived notions.
    It's obvious that he has very little experience of life outside the
    hallowed halls of Emory.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
  5. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    "whatever those may be..."?
    You use it as an example, but don't know what it is?
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
  6. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
  7. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Funk Guest

    Alabama
    Colorado
    District of Columbia
    Georgia (if created before 1/1/97)
    Idaho (if created before 1/1/96)
    Iowa
    Kansas
    Montana
    New Hampshire (for inheritance purposes only)
    Ohio (if created before 10/10/91)
    Oklahoma
    Pennsylvania
    Rhode Island
    South Carolina
    Texas
    Utah

    So doesn't this contradict "But there are no tax benefits to "civil
    unions", no inheritance benefits, no insurance benefits, etc."?
    Why, yes, it does.
    If you want to say something, Lloyd, try to make it a little more
    right. You will have a much easier time, and it will be much harder to
    prove you wrong.
     
    Bill Funk, Dec 6, 2003
  8. Dianelos Georgoudis

    pthunder Guest


    I am not sure who wrote this but whoever did does not know dick about
    steam turbines or power plants! Yes I do. Been there done it!!
     
    pthunder, Dec 6, 2003
  9. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Jenn Wasdyke Guest

    By your own definition, your own posts are no less "abuse". Pot calling the kettle black.
     
    Jenn Wasdyke, Dec 6, 2003
  10. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Jenn Wasdyke Guest

    x-no-archive: yes
    And everybody else does?
     
    Jenn Wasdyke, Dec 6, 2003
  11. Agreed. :)
     
    The Ancient One, Dec 6, 2003
  12. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Jenn Wasdyke Guest

    Nonsense! The consitutional convention was on June 19, 2002. Whether or not the
    legislature is in session NOW has no bearing. The Senate had a constitutional
    duty to vote on the amendment. Instead the constitutional convention was brought
    to order and adjourned within mere seconds. Yay or nay vote on the amendment,
    that is all that was needed. After this travesty, the President Senate's approval
    rating plumeted to the basement, even in liberal Massachusetts. He should have
    been able to easily win governor, instead he came in a very distant third in just
    the primary.
     
    Jenn Wasdyke, Dec 6, 2003
  13. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Brent P Guest

    I believe it would be better than VA system only because of limited
    voting potentional of those who use the VA system. A low voting /
    lobbying power means they really get the shaft at budget time.
    Significantly better? Probably not, just good enough that people
    wouldn't elect 3rd party types to federal office. Just so they
    stay with the two parties.

    But I can say one thing for sure, it would cost people a whole lot of
    money in new and increased taxes.
     
    Brent P, Dec 6, 2003
  14. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Putney Guest

    It's a matter of public record. Try U.S. Congressional record. Oops -
    since I cited that, it must be a right wing organization.

    It's a fact that it happened. You can deny it all you want. Just
    because you probably won't find acknowledgement of it from liberal
    organizations doesn't mean it didn't happen. However I suspect you
    could find some mention of it even there - kind of hard to ignore the
    elephant in the room so to speak.

    Oh - what the heck. Here are some sentences from the article iteself:
    "In October of 1993, pressure from American right-wing groups and
    politicians began to be exerted on ILGA to kick out its pedophile
    organization members. The US Mission to the UN asked ILGA to
    'disassociate itself from NAMBLA and other affiliate organizations'
    whose 'objectives are not consonant with the UN's human rights
    activities'.

    "In November of 1993, the executive committee declared that ILGA
    'condems pedophilia', contrary to some past resolutions on the matter,
    and asked NAMBLA, Martijn, and Project Truth to resign voluntarily from
    ILGA. None of the groups agreed to do so. On the 15th of November,
    NAMBLA issued a press release reaffirming its membership in ILGA.

    "On June 23, 1994, at the Annual Conference, NAMBLA, Martijn and Project
    Truth were expelled from ILGA, on the motion of the executive committee,
    and it was decided that 'groups or associations whose predominant aim is
    to support or promote pedophilia are incompatible with the future
    development of ILGA'.

    "On the eve of the 25th anniversary of the Stonewall riots, the event
    that sparked the contemporary gay and lesbian movement, the NAMBLA
    Bulletin was released in a brown paper format to rally support for
    NAMBLA and so-called 'boy love' organizations within the gay community.
    Due to the pressures facing NAMBLA, its members organized a group called
    the Spirit of Stonewall (SOS), which gathered the endorsement of some
    figures and organizations in the gay movement. Despite threats of
    arrest, 50 NAMBLA members and 200 supporters, including Harry Hay,
    marched under the banner of SOS."

    So you're going to refute the above information from that article? I
    suspect, with your connections in certain "communities", you would have
    not trouble confirming the facts as stated above. Just handwaiving them
    away due to whatever intellectually dishonest diversion you want to
    throw out won't make them not a matter of record. I think the case is
    made rather completely.


    (my comment in brackets above to re-introduce honesty into the
    discussion)
    Glad you agree that it would be strange for liberals to speak out
    against systematized support of pedophilia. Notice my comment was
    clearly in the context of the support of gay rights organizations who
    worked a deal with the U.N. to support and endorse pedophilia around the
    world. But that is a good observation that organizations with a liberal
    agenda would not speak out against pedophilia (until publicity concerns
    dictated that they to do so lest their more attainable agenda items be
    jeopardized).

    Give it up, Lloyd. It's clear to anyone who is honest what happened.
    You can deny it all you want. It happened. Get over it. You're only
    drawing attention to it and making your buddies look bad. Best to leave
    it alone, but I really don't care beacuse the more people become aware
    of that kind of crap, the more exposed you and your kind are.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 6, 2003
  15. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Putney Guest


    Ah - you must be referring to Nancy Pelosi's (sp?) husband.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 6, 2003
  16. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Putney Guest

     
    Bill Putney, Dec 6, 2003
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    Bill Putney Guest


    Must've come out of Emory. They used the movie "Deliverance" as the
    basis for their study. Can you squeal like a pig, Lloyd?

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 6, 2003
  18. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Putney Guest

     
    Bill Putney, Dec 6, 2003
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    Greg Guest

    X-no-archive: yes

     
    Greg, Dec 6, 2003
  20. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Greg Guest

    NYSE ADRs are listed on NYSE by definition! And not only are you wrong now, you
    also said that "DC stock *IS* still listed on the NYSE, as is no other stock of
    Which of course are all LISTED on the NYSE, contrary to your claim!

    "DC stock is still listed on the NYSE, as is no other stock of a company not
    headquartered in the US
     
    Greg, Dec 6, 2003
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