Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Fortune magazine.
    Drug companies make plenty of profits. And they spend more on advertising and
    lobbying than research.
    So US citizens should subsidize this?
    Sorry, it's not. Check out the Consumer Reports article.
    And why do they do this? Just for the thrill?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    You are lying.

    Because you're quoting an urban legend.
    A huge % have no insurance.

    Spoken like someone who's never been poor.

    You would if there's not enough money in your pocket.
    Prove it. By all data, it's superior -- life expectancy, infant mortality,
    etc. And it costs less.
    Total, flat-out LIE.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  3. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Depends on how extensive the changes are, which is why the EPA sued, and which
    is why a number of utilities settled with the EPA.
    Yeah, sure, like the WSJ is believable on this.

    If this is so bad, quote from CNN, or ABC, or NY Times, or some source not a
    business cheerleader.
    Did you read what the NYSE itself said? I posted it. All that was there
    earlier were ADRs.

    Only as ADRs.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  4. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  5. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    There was a study last year that found no increased risk of genetic problems
    when cousins marry.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  6. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Putney Guest

    David, David, David - you should know by now that eqaulity and respect for black
    people is only for *liberal* black people. You must remember that.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with
    "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 5, 2003
  7. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    How does a marriage between 2 gays differ in what it "produces" from one
    between 2 senior citizens, for example?
    Yes, and then there's the black agenda to normalize being black, the Jewish
    agenda to normalize being Jewish, the left-handed agenda to normalize being
    left-handed...
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  8. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Right to inherit, right to have insurance coverage, right to make decisions
    when partner is dying, income tax deductions, ...

    So why shouldn't a gay couple have protection if the breadwinner dies? Or are
    you advocating taking the protection away if the husband and wife in a
    straight marriage both work?
    It's a deception to pretend some civil rights don't matter.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  9. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Putney Guest

    You could subsidize it with tax money and ignore the cost of money over
    time and pretend that those things don't represent real costs - then you
    could justify it and feel like you were saving the wrold.

    Bill Putney
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    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 5, 2003
  10. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Because there are many rights and privileges tied to the word "marriage."
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  11. And if you weren't in a position to afford the treatment on your own?
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    Brandon Sommerville
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  12. Dianelos Georgoudis

    pthunder Guest


    When you make a turbine more efficient ( and they are called turbine
    blades, turbines do not have propellers) by 15%, which is radical by
    the way , DOES NOT mean that you will output 15% more power. It means
    that you will output the same megawatts for 15% less fuel burned in
    the boiler.
    You cannot upgrade a turbine and force the generator to have a higher
    output. The whole thing, turbine and generator is called a gen set.
    Get it? 135 meg. gen. will only put 135 megs. out.

    By the way do you know the cost to reblade a 135 megawatt turbine?
    A 135 is a baby turbine think about the cost of a 1000 megawatt
    reblade.
    I know that the inner, high pressure shell for a 135 G.E. turbine (19
    stages) was $2,000,000 and two years wait ten yrs.ago.
    In order to reblade a complete turbine maybe 44-48 stages, all the
    diaphragms, nozzle block, steam packings ,etc. would need to be
    replaced. At this point you would have a more efficient turbine but
    that old ass boiler would still puke crap into the air because it was
    not made any cleaner and you would still be limited in your output by
    the generator.

    Power companies do not make turbines more efficient to be good guys
    they do it to save FUEL costs.

    Reblading a turbine is a thing not normally done.
    Would you be so kind as to post where I could read this "one famous
    case" as I was a turbine machinist for 15 yrs. and would like to see
    what in gods' name they did to achieve this kind of gain.
    Has to be more than reblading the wheel.
    thanx
     
    pthunder, Dec 5, 2003
  13. No system is ideal and some people would rather pay for service now
    than have it in six months for free.
    If the procedure is urgent, it gets done. Simple as that.
    If you're wealthy it may be inferior, if you're not, it isn't. My
    step-father in Florida pays about $800/month in insurance costs!
    Yeah, they're just presented a nice whopping bill at the end of it.
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  14. So view gay marriage as a marriage with one sterile member. How can
    one "detract" from marriage these days? With a 50% divorce rate it
    seems that hetero couples have done a pretty bang up job detracting
    from it on their own. Perhaps gay couples could show us how to live
    together happily for an extended period.
    It's the nature of a capitalist society that you're so proud of.
    What's wrong with normalizing homosexuality? Is it better that we
    beat them when we find them? Have a good old round of gay bashing?
    Allying noble houses?
    As long as the two people involved care about each other and are
    willing to tie their fortunes together that should be enough.
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  15. Sorry, I went back and re-read what the original post was. I can
    understand the confusion that my post generated since I was confused
    by it! This is what it should have read:
    That's not an explanation of why gay marriage rankles, it's an
    explanation of what marriage is.
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    Brandon Sommerville
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  16. A childless couple will contribute to society exactly the same way
    that a gay couple will. I've known many childless couples that I use
    as an example of how to live my life since they were some of the most
    loving couples that I know. They have contributed significantly to
    the families and friends that they have associated with. I know
    several gay couples who fall into this same category.
    Marriage isn't a benefits bonanza, that's what divorce is for! Given
    the casual nature people are approaching marriage with these days it
    doesn't appear to have a lot of value, does it?

    What it boils down to is this: If someone wants to take marriage
    seriously, they will. If they don't, they won't. Allowing gays the
    right to be legally married doesn't detract at all from the ability of
    those who wish to take marriage seriously to do so.
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    Brandon Sommerville
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  17. Dianelos Georgoudis

    John Kimball Guest

    Only when he whines.

    --
    "The only real improvement you could make at Walmart would be to
    saturate every single store with VX at the height of the Christmas
    season. I fucking hate Christmas shopping. I wish the Blessed Virgin
    Mary had learned to use a coathanger properly."
    -EMT420
     
    John Kimball, Dec 5, 2003
  18. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    And if he'd had no insurance or lots of money, how far do you think he would
    have gotten in trying to get a private hospital to do this?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  19. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

     
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  20. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Airbus receives no state subsidies, but Boeing has a hugely profitable lease
    deal for tankers with the AF that Sen. McCain calls a rip-off of the
    taxpayers.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
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