Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dianelos Georgoudis, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    As I asked, you'd ban marriage then between people who can't or don't want to
    have children?

    Further, gays can adopt children.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  2. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Yeah, and University of Georgia's Home Ec dept is now "Domestic Science."
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  3. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    And the poor can crawl off and die, is that it?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  4. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    It's subsidizing US companies by giving only them government contracts.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  5. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  6. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Who decides if a right is reserved to the states or to the people? Since it's
    in the US constitution, the federal courts must.
    I didn't realize there were pro arguments for discrimination and bigotry.
    Why, in a discussion about gays? They can't marry, so they can't commit
    adultery.
    And if they decided this about, say, Jews?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  7. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest


    Nick, I hit "reply" because it's so faster than going up and editing the
    newsgroups field. Why don't you go back to the original message in this
    thread and complain to (and about) the person who first posted it to your
    newsgroup?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  8. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Hell no. Missile defense in space, for example. Haliburton contracts in
    Iraq, for another. Do I get to decide which ones I don't pay taxes to
    support?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  9. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Not nowadays. WTO would slap that down.
    They gave startup subsidies, all of which Airbus paid back, as it was required
    to.
    Yeah, sure. That's funny.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  10. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    When Europe pays less for health care per capita, that would reduce employer
    expenses.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  11. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Common sense, the fact that consumer columns and consumer shows always cite
    them...

    I guess you buy into "whatever a business says, shut up and take it"?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  12. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    "Provide for the general welfare and the common defence" -- now I'd argue
    giving billions of dollars to companies that Cheney used to work for don't
    fall into either of these, but having a healthy populace sure would.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  13. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    So you'd prefer, what, a monarchy? A theocracy to impose your religious
    beliefs on others?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  14. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Most states don't recognize that anymore.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  15. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    How long would he have waited here if he were poor or had no insurance? He
    wouldn't have even had the routine physical, and you know it.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  16. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Or asking them to not force others to live like the majority wants. You seem
    to be advocating the Taliban style of government -- those who are in power get
    to enforce their religious beliefs on everybody else.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  17. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    Except instead of screwing each other, they screw everybody else.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  18. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    If you cited it, must be. Why not cite, oh, a NEWS organization? Or the UN
    itself?

    Why would liberals be outspoken about the UN endorsing gay rights groups?
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  19. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    If there's one nearby and it voluntarily does that. That doesn't cover
    everybody.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
  20. Dianelos Georgoudis

    Bill Putney Guest

    Ya know Daniel - you're pretty good in your technical areas, but when
    you're on the opposite side of someone in a political discussion, you
    become very much like Lloyd, i.e., you can't argue the points or
    excercise logic and you throw in diversions.

    The point is simple and clear - you want to re-define the word
    "marriage" to excercise what you feel are your rights. So why can't
    others do the same. You want to exclude the "opposite sex" part of the
    definition. Someone else might want to exlude the "human beings" or the
    "mutual consent" part of the difinition. No doubt we could find some
    nature worshippers who would want to be allowed to marry a tree. The
    problem with all of those cases is that they degrade and make
    meaningless the concept of marriage for several reasons. All of them
    would be very destructive - and I don't expect you to agree with that.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 5, 2003
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