How to get rounded nut off the wheel

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mike113, May 2, 2004.

  1. mike113

    mike113 Guest

    I wanted to take off my wheels to grease the balljoints but i found out
    that my wheel nuts were round and can't take off my hand, what can i do to
    take the nut off.
     
    mike113, May 2, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Hey Mike - in the last month, you've have asked 16 questions, some of
    them repeats, most of them pretty elementary and/or easily answerable
    using a shop manual. You've gotten many answers, and never given so
    much as a single response or thank you.

    You might be serious in asking these questions, maybe you're just a
    young kid starting out with a junker that you're trying to fix up and
    you don't know a spark plug from an oxygen sensor - and that would be
    OK, or you may just be jerking us around.

    If your serious and just lacking social skills, well, we maybe can
    tolerate that, but how about a little acknowledgement that you have at
    least read some of the answers. Sounds like you might also consider
    trading that van in and getting something in a little better shape.

    So - bottom line - how about a little feedback. Otherwise my assumption
    is you're intentionally wasting everyone's time.

    On your question, have someone weld a bolt to it, then turn it using the
    bolt head.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, May 2, 2004
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Take the car back to whichever garage rounded off the lug nuts and make
    them remove them and replace them.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 3, 2004
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    Joe Guest

    Actually, this is one question that you can't find in the shop manual, and
    the correct answer is with a cold chisel. Make a notch in the nut and drive
    the notch around and around with the chisel.
     
    Joe, May 3, 2004
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    MoPar Man Guest

    How about a pipe wrench?
     
    MoPar Man, May 3, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Did you miss my suggestion of welding a bolt to any problem nuts and
    using the head of the bolt to remove them?

    Bill Putney
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    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, May 3, 2004
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  7. Sears sells a set of sockets specially made to solve this problem.

    Gramps
     
    Jim Shulthiess, May 3, 2004
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    I'd give vice grips a try first.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 3, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    I guess my point was that there is not necessarily a single right answer
    - may depend on the wheel and nut configuration. At least we have given
    the OP some alternatives to consider for what may work best for his
    setup.

    Bill Putney
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    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, May 4, 2004
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  10. "Bill Putney" wrote
    I'll mention it again: Sears sockets made to address this problem DO WORK.

    Grampd
     
    Jim Shulthiess, May 4, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    In some cases, yes. But consistent with my previous point that there
    may not be a one-size-fits-all solution - not if, say, the lug is a lot
    longer than the nut (in which case you would effctively need the
    equivalent of a deep-well version of the Sears doo-hickey to be able to
    remove it). My own suggestion of welding a bolt to the nut may also not
    work in that case either unless there was room to weld to the side of
    the nut (which there may not be).

    Once again, probably no one soultion that has been proposed will work in
    every situation either due to the lug being longer than the nut or the
    nut being recessed in the wheel details. It's up to the OP to figure
    out what will work best on his application.

    Bill Putney
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    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, May 4, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Jim,

    I'm realizing that if the Sears thingy is like a nut on its outside and
    has a thru hole so that you chuck a regular socket onto it (the socket
    could be deepwell), that it could very well work pretty much in ever
    case as long as the socket require to go over it isn't to big on the
    outside to clear the wheel structure, and if the thru hole in the center
    of the Sears thingy is large enough for a long lug to go thru.

    If that is the case, then a kilo-pardon to you. It could very well be
    "the" solution for all cases. Hmmm - what about a domed nut? Probably.

    Bill Putney
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    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, May 4, 2004
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    True, there is seldom a single solution. However, I like to start
    simple and work up, and vice grips are easier than welding ... at least
    for most of us! A professional welder would likely disagree.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 4, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    And if the lugs and nuts are deeply recessed in the wheel? 8^)

    Bill Putney
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    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, May 5, 2004
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    Dave Gower Guest

    Well there's heat, special sockets and penetrating oil, and if that fails
    there's nut splitters. Your local garage can probably take care of that a
    lot faster than you can, it's a common problem.
     
    Dave Gower, May 5, 2004
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Needle nose vice grips, of course! :)

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 5, 2004
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Yes, unfortunately there are too many monkeys who seem unable to use the
    right size socket and proper technique to install the lug nuts. And
    cranking on the nuts for 3 seconds with an air wrench isn't the proper
    technique.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 5, 2004
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  18. Take a look at
    http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?vertical=TOOL&pid=00952161000&bidsite=&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes

    Gramps
     
    Jim Shulthiess, May 5, 2004
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    Steve Guest

    I haven't been following this thread... but has anyone suggested using a
    cheap-O (cheaper is actually BETTER) 12-point socket wrench of a size
    that is just small enough to fit very tightly if you POUND it onto the
    nut (metric sizes for rounded-off SAE and SAE sizes for rounded-off
    metric bolts come in very handy). Put the socket on the nut, hammer the
    snot out of the socket so that it digs hard into the remains of the nut.
    Impact-wrench the nut and socket off, throw both away.


    I've successfully used that method for removing wheel locks with lost
    keys, too.
     
    Steve, May 5, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Bill Putney, May 6, 2004
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