How recalls really should be done

I like to think I had

I hope so. People need to be pro-active.
I got a bank employee put in prison once following a similar scenario. He
deserved it.

 

The GM problem was intake manifolds. They don't leak any fumes. They may
be a safety device because they suck in poisonous or explosive fumes. They
saved my life!

 

The government will save us all.
One government to protect us,
one government to control us.
Long live the government.
We will live forever.

 

I saw some jackboot senator on the TV this morning discussing the formation
of
a consumer protection function of the government. He was against it...He
said it
would be populated by academics who would be more in favor of consumer
protection issues re the customer than people who know about sales and
profit.

Turns my stomach.

 

You mean laden, I think.

And PBO is a mulatto, not a mongrel. A mongrel is of unknown ancestory.
We know PBO to be the product of an American tart and a Kenyan buck.

Dick Cheney excuses your poor command of the english language
and blames it on public schooling.



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The leaky intakes usually leak oil and/or antifreeze onto the engine.
Hot oil makes smoke/fumes and CAN cause fires. Antifreeze leaks can
"fume" the windsheild -
Neither is a COMMON result, but tboth are POSSIBLE.
Just like a stuck wide open throttle is not a COMMON occurrence on a
Toyota - but it is POSSIBLE

 

Trouble is now tha tthe NHTSA and Governmetn motors have the same boss,
really can't say it is impartial any more.

 

Do you know that as a fact or it just another of your WAGs

 

Are you stupid? Don't answe, it is obvious. But just in case there is
hope.

GM, Governemtn Motors is majority owned by the taxpayers. Government
run, governmetn chooses the board. Government, the same government
chooses who runs NHTSA and chooses it's management and director.

Now to say that impartiality is guaranteed, is stupid. To say Toyota
with 1/3rd the number of defects compared to Government Motors all of a
sudden changes in one year des sort of stinks of bias and McCarthyism.

 

I commend your efforts... Alberta Infrastructure (the government department
administering the Out of Province vehicle inspection program - along with
some other inspections) has been busy making it more difficult for
charlatans to enjoy the profits found in sidestepping the legislation. In
the last 5 years, our shop has been inspected three times. Each time, our
list of required equipment has grown.. and we have met these requirements at
every turn...

I must mention, at this point, that we "import" many vehicles for resale. We
maintain our inspection station permits for this reason... extending the
inspections to customer vehicles helps to ameliorate some of the costs... Be
it an "in house" inspection or a retail inspection, an infraction would
affect my reputation and earning power. I'm a stickler... if you don't like
my decision, I will show you why my decision is what it is...

So... let's consider your brake pads... I have no idea of year, make or
model... no idea of option load... Brake pad taper... if there is a spec in
the factory manual for brake pad lining taper, this must be considered when
choosing pass or fail... thickness variation from pad to pad - again, if
there is a spec in the factory manual....

If I fail any component on your vehicle, I can show you why it fails and I
can show you the documentation that confirms the ruling. At this point, it
becomes obvious that I am supposed to apply MY SIGNATURE to a certificate
vouching that your car is absolutely safe. At this point, we are
presupposing that you aren't about to run into someone, you wont cal 1-800-
SAM and have some sharp as a tack ambulance chaser tear my inspection to
shreds.... hanging me out to dry on a minor technicality like brake pad
taper or a missing pedal pad or the e-brake doesn't quite cut it or some
other seemingly unimportant faux pas...

The privilege of performing these inspections isn't a licence to print
money... but the "why" is there in black and white (in the criteria outlined
in the inspection manual).... and I am not about to jeopardize my career to
save someone a few bucks.

 

actually TSBs tell a technician "if a customer comes in compalining of this,
the problem is possibly this... and heres how to check for that"

very seldom do you get a free fix. it just helps the tech get to the bottom
of the problem faster.

 

The truth is in the middle, at least for 90+% of the TSB's on the 2
Chrysler Concordes I own - with *very* few exceptions, the last couple
of lines of any given TSB are:

"POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty."

meaning if the car is still under warranty, it's fixed under warranty;
if not still under warranty, then it would be done on my nickel if I
choose to have it done.

 

Thank you.

It was simpler than that. (BTW - 1986 Subaru GL10 turbo station wagon.)
It was a simple matter of minimum thickness according to the state
inspection manual. I forget the lower limit, but they were *way* above
it, and *very* consistent (no taper).

The brakes on that car were amazing: I sold it with 275k miles (original
engine, original turbo unit) on it with the original rotors - never had
them turned, and they were as smooth as a baby's skin the day I sold it.
Brakes always wore very evenly. Even Subaru has problems with brakes
today, I guess due to every manufacturer putting weight at a very high
premium and cutting back on the material/mass. But that's progress, eh?

 

Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty."

you are correct sir, i just figured that was obvious

 

I would guess that it's like fuel injection equipment, just four would
wide with cross licence. They used to be Lucas here in England, Bosch
in Germany, Nippon Denso in Japan and AC Delco in America. That was 20
years ago but I would assume the same sort of system operates today.

 

Only to people who have seen the TSB's. I figured it was worth
saying it explicitly for that reason.

--
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

TSB's aren't free fixes... they note known problems, and are often only
available to technicians, and give them a "check this first" if you
experience "this problem"...

recalls are free fixes... but how free is it when you have to burn 2-3
hours toting your vehicle back to the dealer for repair... nothing
convenient about that. They should come to my house and repair it for
me in my driveway...

 

ok they should string some 220V wires to your switch box to run the
compressor and dig up your yard to install a lift too! LOL

 

Man, good idea. You think they'd do all that just for buying a ford

 

maybe a Ferrari FXX



i hear they ask you to leave it with them when you buy it, and they will let
you come drive it on THEIR track in Italy. Then they put it back in their
garage for you again.