How can I determine Engine in 1998 Dakota?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ssuckler, Mar 8, 2007.

  1. ssuckler

    ssuckler Guest

    I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
    either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
    is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
    distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
     
    ssuckler, Mar 8, 2007
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  2. ssuckler

    GeekBoy Guest

    I don't think Dodge put a 5.9 in a Dakota.
     
    GeekBoy, Mar 8, 2007
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  3. ssuckler

    Tom Lawrence Guest

    I don't think Dodge put a 5.9 in a Dakota.

    Yes, in the RT model, beginning in '98
     
    Tom Lawrence, Mar 8, 2007
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  4. They did. I have one.

    -rev
     
    The Reverend Natural Light, Mar 8, 2007
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  5. ssuckler

    ssuckler Guest

    Mine is a 4x4 Club Cab. This wouldn't be an R/T so you think it's
    most likely a 5.2L?
     
    ssuckler, Mar 8, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    Thanks for the clarification.
    I had considered buying one around the time. Seemed you got a more featured
    truck at a lower price compared to the Ram.

    Then I got in the truck and drove it and realized you could get a car with
    the same power, but larger size for a price a lot less.
     
    GeekBoy, Mar 8, 2007
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  7. ssuckler

    John Kunkel Guest

    In '98 the 5.9L was only available in the Dakota R/T and was a midyear
    addition.

    VIN is incorrect? What makes you think so?
     
    John Kunkel, Mar 8, 2007
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    maxpower Guest

    What does the under hood sticker show? it can come as a 5.2 or a 5.9 ( the
    emissions label)

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Mar 8, 2007
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  9. ssuckler

    ssuckler Guest


    Because the VIN says the truck is a 2000 w/ 4.7L. It's definitely not
    a 4.7L. The engine is cast with date of 3/98 and the suspension is
    for a 98 truck (pitman arm whereas 2000 has rack and pinion). I took
    the truck to the dealer, they looked up the VIN and said that the
    truck should be a 2WD with an automatic transmission, but this one is
    a 4WD with 5-speed manual.

    So, basically, this is a 1998 truck with a VIN from another vehicle.
    I'm not sure why or how, but someone along the line swapped the VIN
    plate. That's my sad story of getting screwed by a crooked dealer. I
    tried to get an attorney to sue the guy but no one will take the case
    because they feel they'll never get paid and I can't afford to pay a
    lawyer up front. So I guess I'm stuck with the truck.
     
    ssuckler, Mar 8, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    District attoney office can help. People have gone to prison over swapping
    VINs and misleading people.
     
    GeekBoy, Mar 8, 2007
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  11. ssuckler

    GeekBoy Guest

    He mentioned in another post that the VIN had been swapped by someone else.
     
    GeekBoy, Mar 8, 2007
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    Dll Guest

    Interesting chop shop story. Sounds like the 1998 truck was rolled or
    something and they took the cab from 2000 truck?

    Yeah, I think a DA would take that case. Can't hurt to call their office.
    Maybe they say no interest, but it won't cost you anything to find out.
    Fucking with VINs is highly illegal. At the least, I would see to it that
    they lost their dealer license in the state. It's pretty certain they
    would.

    Or small claims court. Limits vary, maybe up to 10-15k. Can't imagine
    you'd loose with such clear and obvious evidence - get statement from
    dealer.

    None of this should cost you anything other than your time. ...

    -D
     
    Dll, Mar 8, 2007
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  13. ssuckler

    ssuckler Guest

    Whoever did this, put a hood sticker from a 2000 which says the engine
    is 4.7L. This was enough to fool the smog tech as I passed the smog
    test here in California. The test was performed as if the truck was a
    2000 4.7L rather than a 5.2L 1998.

    I found out about this not being a 2000 when I was involved in an
    accident. Repair parts were ordered based on the VIN and nothing
    fit. After trial and error and looking in catalogs, the shop
    determined (the front-end anyway) was a '98.
     
    ssuckler, Mar 8, 2007
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    Steve Guest

    The easiest way is to look at the harmonic balancer. The 5.2 is an
    internally balanced engine so the balancer is perfectly circular. The
    5.8 has an offset weight as a part of the balancer itself.
     
    Steve, Mar 8, 2007
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    maxpower Guest

    The vin and the underhood Emission label are 2 different items. I still see
    no mention of the underhood label being gone
     
    maxpower, Mar 8, 2007
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  16. ssuckler

    maxpower Guest

    The engine size will be programmed into the PCM, connect a scan tool and
    find out what it says.
     
    maxpower, Mar 8, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    He mentioned that also. A 2000 decal put on his 98 vehicle..

    Clearly fraud.
     
    GeekBoy, Mar 9, 2007
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    maxpower Guest

    Wow I must be going blind, I missed it twice
     
    maxpower, Mar 9, 2007
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    sqdancerLynn Guest

    It was either fraud, or out right theft. Truck was probably repaired with
    STOLEN parts. In calif
    it would have a salvage title. It would have had to be inspected BY the
    CHP, also would need reciepts for replaced parts and a NEW VIN sticker
    issued. IF THE POLICE ever had the need to check the VIN the vehicle could
    be seized & impounded
     
    sqdancerLynn, Mar 9, 2007
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    philthy Guest

    it's stamped on the side of the engine block
     
    philthy, Mar 10, 2007
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