Hot Asian Cars, Designed In Detroit

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Just Facts, Oct 16, 2006.

  1. Just Facts

    DeserTBoB Guest

    You are correct.

    The Kaiser industrial empire was mostly scuttled by the kids after
    Henry J. died in '74, preferring to concentrate on the
    Kaiser-Permanente health care system, the largest HMO in the US, and
    one of the few non-profit ones. The Kaiser Jeep operation went to
    AMC, the Fontana steel mill was sold to the Japanese and its Eagle
    Mountain pit mine closed. It's quite a crime by them that they
    allowed Kaiser Aluminum to fall into the hands of a greedy asshole
    like Charlie Hurwitz, an asshole Texan who seems to delight in
    screwing working people more than anything else...except for his love
    of violating Federal laws. When Henry J. was still running things,
    any Kaiser entity was known to be a great place to work with excellent
    labor relations with their unionized employees. That still lives on
    at Kaiser-Permanente, but died when Henry did at the other, cast-off
    operations.

    The Fontana mill is still operating, but no longer processes iron ore
    into steel. After the SCAQMD mandated that Kaiser spend millions
    retrofitting their coke ovens to cut emissions around 1971, which
    Henry gladly spent, the family sold off the mill in '76 and shut the
    mine, citing profitability problems. The real reason was the Nixon
    Recession of '74, which had priced US steel much higher due to
    outrageous interest rate increases, while the Japanese, due to Nixon's
    "laissez-faire" trade ideology, were dumping cheap steel on our
    markets daily. You'll also remember the shenanigans of LTV, Colt
    Steel and US Steel about this time, when the old "blasters" of the
    Monongahela Valley were finally shut down.

    Later analysis showed that the Kaiser Fontana mill was still a
    profitable operation when shut down as a mill and sold to the
    Japanese, and it was obvious that the family members involved wanted
    to get away from industrial operations and concentrate on non-profit
    health care. However, in Pennsylvania, years of management neglect
    and greed caused the old open hearth mills to continue on using 19th
    century technology all the way into the '70s...they were set up to
    fail, and greedy management ripped off the steelworkers' pension
    funds. That's what caused the ERISA legislation of 1976, which Bush
    Bird and his handlers have been trying to kill for six years, but now
    have no chance..

    Kaiser had converted to electric furnaces back in the early '60s, one
    of the first US steel makers to make the transition. After the
    shutdown/sell off, the former vertically integrated mill is now simply
    a fabrication shop and rolling mill. After selling the mill, the
    Japanese cut wages 50%, but were mandated to provide the same health
    care through the Kaiser-Permanente system. After 20 years, the USWA
    finally reorganized the workforce there, and wages are on their way
    back up...a rare scenario these days.

    The Kaiser mill was originally built in 1941 to provide steel for
    Kaiser's shipyards on the West Coast. After the end of WW II, the
    mill provided sheet steel for the GM Chevrolet plant in Van Nuys, as
    well as the Ford Terminal Island and Pico Rivera plants. Once the
    Japanese took over the mill circa 1976, they engaged in predatory
    pricing of Fontana-rolled sheet steel, thus forcing Ford out of the
    area, and forcing GM to cut back production at Van Nuys. GM did stick
    it out until 1992 at Van Nuys producing slow selling Camaro/Firebirds.
    The "new" Camaro of '93 was produced in Ohio at Lordstown, much closer
    to domestic steel producers. This also was of dubious wisdom, as the
    biggest market GM had for Camaros and Firebirds was...California! It
    costs more to ship finished cars on auto racks 2500 miles than it
    costs to ship sheet and coil steel from the Midwest to the West Coast.
    Sure enough, the "new" Camaro/Firebird twins weren't profitable, and
    GM axed the line rather than admit they'd screwed up...again....still?
    The economic disaster that followed the closing of Van Nuys is still
    being felt, as middle class workers were uprooted to make way for
    hoards of illegal aliens.

    GM...the worst there is!
     
    DeserTBoB, Nov 1, 2006
    #41
  2. I see you like a pissing contest... ;-)

    Anyway, I was speaking of road-going trucks. A 320 load is illegal on
    public roads even, I suspect, in the USA....

    Whatever, any of these are 'proper' trucks, as opposed to the light,
    pseudo-offroaders curiously characterised as trucks in the US...

    :)
    DAS

    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Nov 1, 2006
    #42
  3. Just Facts

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Duh...these are MINE trucks, not highway trucks.
    Correct about Japanese and US ½ ton "trucks," which aren't. For
    decades, a ½ ton Ford, Chevrolet or Chrysler pickup was basically a
    station wagon drive train in a truck body. When you got up to ¾ ton,
    then things started getting more serious.
     
    DeserTBoB, Nov 2, 2006
    #43
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