Horn Ring needed for safety's sake

I needed my horn and it wasn't there. The airbag in wheel installation
allows only one lower-right quadrant dedicated for the horn and a very hard
press in the active area is needed to actuate the horn. Press anywhere
else and you get nothing.

That might work in straight ahead driving, but what about in a turn when
the wheel has rotated to some arbitrary angle? The driver is disadvantaged
if he has to hunt for the horn-sensitive area.

What is needed is return to the horn ring. Press the circular ring and the
horn instantly sounds. The old horn rings were die cast pot metal; titanium
would be better - less likely to deform and low weight.

Car makers: you are on notice the present horn design is deficient and a
hazard. Lawmakers and tort lawyers take note of this fact as I believe
actionable lawsuits are indicated when the horn warning system fails and
accidents occur as a result.

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Don't know what car you refer to, but my 3 air bag equipped vehicles do not
exhibit this trait.

 

I understand your point, it is harder to get the horn to activate in my
newer cars. But if I had every smashed my face against a horn ring I'd
probably be glad to get rid of it.

 

My '04 Venture van was like this. Two spots, not much larger
than your thumb, had to be pushed precisely in order to get
the horn to sound. The one time I really had to use it I
couldn't find the sweet spot. Fortunately, I believe in
hitting the brakes first before the horn and the accident
was avoided.

 

That's some good GM engineering right there....hey, if you are dead you
can't sue!

Pathetic.

 

I have a 68 Torino that has a horn ring. The steering wheel is padded
and you would have to have a face the size of a baseball to smash it
against the horn ring. In any case, the horn ring is only cheap potmetal
and would break. I've broken mine once already. (I have a couple spares
in my parts bin)

Ted

 

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That design was carried over to the replacement
Uplander/Relay?Terraza/Montana SV6. GM later revised the springs or washers
in the steering wheel pad and the fix seemed to cure the issue in my 05
Relay. I had reason to test it a couple of days ago when a car turning left
next to me took the turn too sharply and veered into my lane, forcing me
over.

 

The one in my '66 Polara is designed to pop off the hub if your face
ever hit it. And your face, as you said, would have to be about the size
of a grapefruit.

But "George Orwell" is just stirring crap, as usual. If he really wants
convenience, go back to the "rim blow" horn offered on early 70s Mopars.

 

My '03 S-10 has its horn switch as part of the center of the steering wheel.
Press anywhere on that (basically what is probably the entire airbag
assembly as well) and you get a horn.

On the other hand, my '84 Plymouth Reliant has two horn buttons in the two
spokes that connect the hub of the steering wheel to the outer area. I think
that would be harder to use in the case of a sudden need to do so.

William

 

They should bring back those nice rim blow switches instead.

Steve B.

 

I often don't have time to find the horn positions on then wheel, so I just
rev up the engine to gain attention. It works especially for those dumb street
dogs who refuse to get out of the way.

 

Nope that ugly horn ring isn't what I want, just the horn to be in the
center of the steering wheel. I don't hit the horn first, it's the
brakes and steering first.
My wife's 2001 does have the horn in the center of the steering ring,
but unfortunately hadn't figured that out for my '95 LH, which has two
small horn push points on the horn spokes. Finding them quickly when
turning is so difficult it makes sounding the horn quickly when turning
next to impossible.

 

your post at the bottom brings to light something i have a issue with
that is spanish
the fact is this is america and here we speak english!
don't like it! go to china or russia,france or japan
and see if they allow the language change to english
you will be locked up asap
we are now starting to see terrorism of a new sort and that is being taken over
from within by illegal aliens from mexico and this spanish shit is the first
phase
and while this is occurring the mexican president wants to change the U.S
currency and that of his beloved mexico and canada to one currency and he has
been in dc to lobby this
the illegals here are planning to march on washington dc on mayday of 08 to
protest for their rights!!
they are illegal they don't have rights here!dam crying same they get free
medical treatment from dc and i can't and i was born here 6th gen.
it's is time we bring bac some national guard troops back from iraq and line
them up at our southern border to push them back were they came from and once
they get the message send half of those into las Angeles to rid that city of
the illegals pg13 gangs that are causing all sorts of problems so much so,
good people are moving out in droves just to be safe
if you want to come to this land there should be a 3 year wait and a medical
workup for aids and hepatitis and a background check then when that is good
you can apply to be a citizen if things don't change we are in deep shit!
sorry for the rant

 

If you do go to those countries you'll find that they teach English in
schools at a very young age. Europeans especially are multi-lingual. They
may not allow a "language change", but they certainly promote English is
both schools and businesses. I do business in Austria, Italy, and Denmark
and there is never a language barrier.

 

The message at the bottom of his post was Italian, pard, not Spanish..

And 'this ain't America'! This is an international group.

We have several newish automobiles,and I have on occasion not been able to
find
the sweet spot to blow the horn under emergency conditions. I would like it
to
be more intuitive too, but can live with it.

 

Haven't you noticed, you must not get out much.
Spanish is a very common language in the southern USA.

The USA needs the labor of those Mexicans. They are very hard working
people. If there was a work visa system for them to come to do seasonal
(farm, etc.) work, I'm sure they would be happy to return home to see
their families. As it is now they have to sneak back and forth.
It's not just farm work they are in, I see many in the construction
trade and owning many USA businesses.

If they are blocked from working in the USA, more USA industry like the
car companies will set up shop in Mexico. Then there will be a total
loss of jobs in t he USA.

I was just in Mexico and could use either Mexican or USA currency, but
10% off the USA $1. They would probably prefer to use the Euro now,
with the crashing of the USA$.

They consider southern CA to be effectively another Mexican territory,
due to the very large ex Mexican population there.

The serious crime and drugs is in the USA. If I were them I wouldn't
want my children to be brought up in the gun dangerous USA.

A little education for you here, if you are capable of opening your mind?

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/07/spanish-tv-lati.html
Spanish TV, Latinos merit more respect

 

In most states you need the horn to work exactly one time per year, at
inspection time. The testers are generally very patient and willing to
search for the sweet spot. No horn ring needed. The horn is useless as
a collision avoidance device and serves no real purpose in modern
driving.

 

the horn is not a safety instrument so you dont hit it first, its really
more of a hey you suck at driving instrument.

 

Rubbish. Have I avoided a collision by blowing my car horn? Absolutely!
Where? In a parking lot. When some bozo was backing out of a slot. If
I had not honked they would have backed into me.

Ted

 

funny you named contries that all benefited from our part in ww2
try that in russia