HID lights

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by NJ Vike, Feb 15, 2006.

  1. NJ Vike

    NJ Vike Guest

    What's involved with changing over to them? I noticed a 300M Special in the
    junk yard and was wondering how complicated it might be to install them in
    my 300M.

    What should it cost for the parts?


    Thanks

    Ken
     
    NJ Vike, Feb 15, 2006
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  2. NJ Vike

    Hachiroku Guest

    If you strip them from a Junkyard, it shouldn't be a lot ($250-300?)

    If you're installing from scratch, expect to pay $600 or so for the parts.
    There are aftermarket HID changeovers that start about $550 up. Since it's
    an entirely different technology, you have to install the hi-voltage unit as
    well as the lighting itself.

    There was a good article on HID on the web a couple years ago. Google it to
    get the background info you will need and then do some shopping.

    Sorry for top-posting...using Outhouse Express today! :)
     
    Hachiroku, Feb 15, 2006
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  3. Not very complicated. Swap the headlamp assemblies, connect the plugs that
    used to go to your low beam bulbs to the new lamps' ballasts, aim the
    lamps carefully per
    http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html , and off you go.
    Can get a good reading on this via www.car-part.com (searchable used auto
    parts nationwide).

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 15, 2006
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  4. Daniel J. Stern, Feb 15, 2006
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  5. NJ Vike

    Hachiroku Guest

    Well, yes. You don't want to just shove an HID capsule into your regular
    headlight.

    But there are aftermarket retrofits that take all this into account. I
    have older cars that use sealed beams, and when you replace the headlight,
    you replace the entire unit. There are retrofit kits for there that
    provide a properly configured lens/reflector.

    --
    A young girl I know told me I drive like an old man

    I told her, actually, I drive like Mario Andretti.
    It's just that too many other people on the road
    drive like Paul Tracy...
     
    Hachiroku, Feb 16, 2006
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  6. Shop carefully; many of them are garbage at best, dangerous at worst.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 16, 2006
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  7. NJ Vike

    NJ Vike Guest

    Thanks for the info.



     
    NJ Vike, Feb 16, 2006
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  8. NJ Vike

    NJ Vike Guest

    Thanks DS.

    I will stay away from the aftermarket type. I've seen how bad some of them
    look. Here in the country, these should help a lot more.

    Ken

    --
    "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
    from thirty-third to Buffalo.
    From Broadway bright the tubes run right
    Into the Road of Anthracite"
    Erie - Lackawanna
     
    NJ Vike, Feb 16, 2006
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  9. NJ Vike

    Steve Guest

    The only retrofit like that which *I* am aware of is a steaming pile
    of.... stuff. Costs hundreds, and isn't as good as a $12 sealed beam.
     
    Steve, Feb 17, 2006
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  10. NJ Vike

    Hachiroku Guest

    Yeah, I was tempted. There is a high-end parts store near me that has *real*
    Sylvania and Philips crossover kits, not pieces slapped together by someone
    in Indonesia. $699, look like a good kit, but I was working at CarQuest at
    the time and bought some off the shelf replacement bulbs, I think they were
    Sylvania Xenons, PLENTY of light! $6.99 with my employee discount (they
    WEREN'T SilverStars...)
     
    Hachiroku, Feb 17, 2006
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  11. Bzzzt! That Sylvania Xenarc kit was made, believe it or not, by a
    trinketmaker in a basement workshop in Taiwan. He had marginal ability to
    design an functional glovebox light, let alone a headlamp, but his North
    American representative put together a slick enough presentation that
    Sylvania took the bait. Performance was significantly worse than even a $7
    non-halogen sealed beam. Durability was the pits (lens turned yellow and
    frosty and/or fell off the reflector in under a year). Sylvania had hoped
    to use that product to increase market awareness and acceptance of HID
    headlamps in North America, because it was (and is) lagging behind Europe.
    The effort backfired very badly because of the crap quality and
    performance; Sylvania quietly discontinued them and remaindered them off
    at firesale prices to a guy out West who is currently hyping them up on
    his website, claiming they are "generation 2" units, whatever that's
    supposed to mean (nothing).

    Remember, just because there's a name on the (fancy, expensive) box that
    you recognise, does NOT mean it's necessarily a good product.
    The packaging was very slick, for sure. If the same amount of thought,
    engineering and design had gone into the lamps inside, they might've been
    worth a toss.
    You bought Sylvania Xtravisions, one of the last honest products left in
    Sylvania's line.

    As for Silverstars:
    Remember, just because there's a name on the (fancy, expensive) box that
    you recognise, does NOT mean it's necessarily a good product.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 17, 2006
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  12. NJ Vike

    Hachiroku Guest

    And a premium price to boot.

    No, I'm not often taken in by ads, packaging or bling! I like the
    Xtravisions just fine!

    --
    A young girl I know told me I drive like an old man

    I told her, actually, I drive like Mario Andretti.
    It's just that too many other people on the road
    drive like Paul Tracy...
     
    Hachiroku, Feb 18, 2006
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  13. NJ Vike

    Richard Guest

    Forget about HID and just pop in a set of 9011 and 9012 bulbs.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Feb 23, 2006
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