had one ... but the doors fell off

opinions my friend, we are all intitled to them, that was mine only ok,
relax

 

I'm still trying to figure out what the phrase "100% better" means. Can
someone give an example with numbers ilustrating something being 100%
better than something else.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

 

I'm still trying to figure out what the phrase "100% better" means. Can

Certainly. It is 100% better to have sex with Brittany Spears, than
it is to have sex with Earnest Borgnine. This is shown without the numbers, as
anyone with even a scintilla of intellectual honesty can see the difference
without them. If you disagree, put down the gay porn, and seek the counsel of
a good psychiatrist.


God Bless,
Dan'L

("If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third
hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're
around.")

 

100%???? This whole paragraph is nothing but horses*it and bull cr*p. Get real!

 

Sounds like a sour-grapes attitude from someone with a big, BIG chip on his
shoulder as well as a BIG ax to grind.

 

Millions???????????? No, in actuality the number is around 610,000..........and
the wheels falling off is one problem, not the entire vehicle. In reality
Chrysler looked in their crystal ball when you went to buy your T&C and they
said, "We will sell this one vehicle that will have virtually everything go
wrong with it to this guy, Peter Denyer".

 

Call it what you want, but he is very close to being correct. The only thing
that I differ on is that the independents can charge whatever the market
will bear. If they think Chilton time for a particular job is too low, they
can bump it to what they think is fair and then see if the customer will buy
it.

Denny

 

statistics are a wonderful thing - most cars are pretty good and you get
what you paid for. Some are even better than that, some are worse.
Depending on where you are on that great statistical bell curve, you
could end up with an absolute dog, or a car that lasts forever. No
crystal ball needed - random chance gets you.

As an example my ex-neighbor has a GM pickup built at least 40 years ago
- all his buddies on the assembly line knew it was his and paid extra
care to make things as perfect as they could. He never had a lick of
problem all time I knew him and he claimed he never did have any serious
problem. Ended up giving it to his granddaughter when he felt too old to
drive it safely any more. Obviously something to the far right of that
statistical bell curve.

My van, on the other hand...


Peter

 

Well the fact that you can't illustrate it with a quantitative example
makes my point (that the phrase is technically meaningless). You didn't
even put numbers to the experience with Earnest [sic and sick] or with
Brittany to show the 100% calculation. Unless what you're saying is
that the former would be a 5 out of 10 and the latter would be 10 out of
10, which would be a 100% improvement, and you would be admitting that
there was some value in the former experience. Disqualified.

Bill Putney
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simply saying that the foriegn vehicles has fewer problems then the domestic
ones right off the truck, is that better?

 

| did you have any doors fall off James?

Nope... Never have.

 

|
| James
|
| looked into that, but never quite qualified, and things always seemed to
| go wrong just outside of Chrysler warranty on repairs.
|
| Yes, I've got friends who have had good luck with the Caravan/
| Voyager/Town and Country - I just happened to hit an unlucky one.
|

Yep, it's too bad you had to go through that. And, it's understandable why you
may not purchase another Chrysler product as a result.

 

| the current post about the Durango whelles falling off makes my point -
| DC has made millions of these as well - and my neighbor loves hers - but
| sometimes the wheels fall off...'nuff said!
|
| Peter
|

I believe they reported 46 occurrences out of 600,000 vehicles...if my memory
serves me correctly (I'm sire if it's not right, someone here will know the
real numbers). I wonder what the average is for this situation (yes wheels
fall off of other cars as well..so there is a average)

 

It means the same thing as "New and Improved".

 

keep trying you will get it DanC

 

Hey I think the center bolt on the rear hinge is some kind of shear pin, it
looks like it's intended to break and allow the door to pivot up with out
falling off. I'd stop by a bone yard and pick up another hinge for a buck or
so.

KS

 

It was his opinion, therefore it means nothing. That was what I
suspected, but he confirmed it above.


Matt

 

Except that his buddies had very little to do with it. The far bigger
affect is the components that are put on the vehicle and this isn't an
assembly line issue.

Yes, it sounds like he was one of the lucky ones that got a vehicle
where all of the parts were at the center of the specification limits.


Matt

 

Yes, that is much better and is true based on the last stats I saw,
however, the difference now between foreign and domestic is very small,
and you can't lump all foreign makes together as US built cars are
actually better at delivery time than are European imports. The
Japanese are still slightly ahead, although not all Japanese brands do
better than US brands. Subaru and Mitsubishi, for example, tend to lag
well behind Toyota and Honda. And the Koreans will be in the lead in
another 2-3 years at the rate they are improving.


Matt

 

Why yes. That's 100% better! 8^)

Bill Putney
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