Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Grumpy, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. Grumpy

    Grumpy Guest

    Are you the owner of a Jeep Grand Cherokee that did not live up to
    expectations?



    More directly, did your Jeep Grand Cherokee suffer a premature rear axle
    bearing failure? Did you find your contacts with Chrysler Corporation to be
    unproductive in getting assistance to pay for the repair?



    I invite you to email your story, photos and receipts to



    http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com



    All information will be turned over to a lawyer for possible class action
    status.



    All information will be kept strictly confidential. Stories and photos will
    be shared to attract more owners of defective Grand Cherokees.



    Check updates at



    http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com



    Thank You
     
    Grumpy, Jun 30, 2004
    #1
  2. Grumpy

    JP Guest

    Hello Grumpy and group

    I visited the website and just sent an email detailing my experiences.'
    Good for you to take the time to get this started !

    BTW.

    The email link from the blogspot webpage is wrong.
    It should read

    and not /

    For those interested:

    I have posted here several times regarding this problem and had varying
    responses.
    The email I just sent to Grumpy reads like this: . .

    ****************************************************************************
    *
    Interesting.
    Just saw this in rec.jeep

    In a six month period I had the bearings replaced three times and the third
    time I had to get a new carrier, half shaft and posi clutch.
    This was all before the odometer had reached 150,000 Km.
    It cost me CDN $2400. (actually more including tax)

    The vehicle is a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Orvis edition.
    It is presently for sale.

    I have all the receipts, but no pictures.

    By the way . . .

    /

    doesn't work.
    It should read like this . . .



    ****************************************************************************
    **********
     
    JP, Jun 30, 2004
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  3. No problems with either of my wife's two Grand Cherokees. We had such a
    great experience together with very good reliability with our '99 that we
    traded it in on an '02, both with the superb 4.7L V8 engine. The 2002 is
    doing fine, as we expected it would. We've had great luck with all four
    Jeeps we have purchased.

    Jerry
     
    Jerry Bransford, Jun 30, 2004
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  4. Grumpy

    JohanB Guest

    It is a Chrysler product, what do you mean expectations.

    Living under a rock the last 20 years

    I own a jeep wrangler and I know it work every now and then

    Want a boring reliable car ???? buy a Honda or toyota like my 90 year
    old grandpa has and stop whining .......
     
    JohanB, Jul 1, 2004
    #4
  5. Grumpy

    JP Guest

    * - Are you slamming Chrysler or praising them ?

    * - Now I gotta tell you, I'm real sorry to hear that but hopefully things
    will improve soon.
    * - Yes, its nice when our cars work occasionally. That's one of the main
    reasons I buy one actually.
    I'm sorry, this is rec.auto.jeep, perhaps you'd have better luck selling
    your grandpa's toyota on another newsgroup.
     
    JP, Jul 1, 2004
    #5
  6. Sounds to me you should have found a new mechanic...3 times in 6 months
    leads me to believe the repair wasn't done correctly. Not unheard of to need
    new bearings at 90,000 miles.
     
    Matt Macchiarolo, Jul 1, 2004
    #6
  7. Grumpy

    JP Guest

    Yes, Matt.
    There's some truth to that.
    The third repair was done by another shop.
    /they did tell me that very few mechanics are able to set up the Dana 44s
    correctly particularly if they use the specs from Chrysler.
    Chrysler specs them too tight.
    This particular shop does a lot of these rear ends and they were very
    critical of them.
     
    JP, Jul 1, 2004
    #7
  8. Grumpy

    JohanB Guest

    Offcourse that should read:

    I own a jeep wrangler and I know it NEEDS work every now and then
     
    JohanB, Jul 1, 2004
    #8
  9. Grumpy

    JohanB Guest


    Forgot the ????? Meaning ,it is a chrysler, not the most reliable car.
    You either buy, drive and repair them when they break down( like me ) or
    sell it and buy something else more reliable

    I am fine, thanks for asking, howbout yourself.....
    should be NEED work every now and then

    OK , let me also explain the last remark since you also didnt get that 1

    It states LIKE my grandpa's car , not BUY my grandpa's car.

    Let use these groups to help each other with technical problems, not to
    cry and bitch all the time. You bought a CAR , not a $25000 swiss
    precision watch.
    Cars break down.... some more then others, fix em and move on or sell
    it and buy something else.

    AND AGAIN NO !!!! MY GRANDPA'S CAR IS NOT FOR SALE !!!!!
     
    JohanB, Jul 1, 2004
    #9
  10. Grumpy

    Cherokee-LTD Guest

    How much is your Grandpa looking to get for his car?


    :
    :
    : JP wrote:
    :
    : > * - Are you slamming Chrysler or praising them ?
    :
    : Both
    :
    : >>Living under a rock the last 20 years
    :
    :
    : Forgot the ????? Meaning ,it is a chrysler, not the most reliable car.
    : You either buy, drive and repair them when they break down( like me ) or
    : sell it and buy something else more reliable
    :
    :
    : >
    : >
    : > * - Now I gotta tell you, I'm real sorry to hear that but hopefully
    things
    : > will improve soon.
    : >
    : I am fine, thanks for asking, howbout yourself.....
    :
    : >
    : >>I own a jeep wrangler and I know it work every now and then
    : >
    : should be NEED work every now and then
    :
    : >
    : > * - Yes, its nice when our cars work occasionally. That's one of the
    main
    : > reasons I buy one actually.
    :
    :
    : <occasionally >, As long as you keep that in mind, those repairs wont
    : come as a surprise and you dont have to cry to us about it
    : >
    :
    : >
    : >>Want a boring reliable car ???? buy a Honda or toyota like my 90 year
    : >>old grandpa has and stop whining .......
    : >
    : >
    : > I'm sorry, this is rec.auto.jeep, perhaps you'd have better luck selling
    : > your grandpa's toyota on another newsgroup.
    : >
    :
    : OK , let me also explain the last remark since you also didnt get that 1
    :
    : It states LIKE my grandpa's car , not BUY my grandpa's car.
    :
    : Let use these groups to help each other with technical problems, not to
    : cry and bitch all the time. You bought a CAR , not a $25000 swiss
    : precision watch.
    : Cars break down.... some more then others, fix em and move on or sell
    : it and buy something else.
    :
    : AND AGAIN NO !!!! MY GRANDPA'S CAR IS NOT FOR SALE !!!!!
    :
     
    Cherokee-LTD, Jul 1, 2004
    #10
  11. Grumpy

    JohanB Guest

    He doesnt look that much anymore, almost blind, his dog does most of his
    driving for him.........

    Johan
     
    JohanB, Jul 1, 2004
    #11
  12. Grumpy

    JohanB Guest

    AND NO !!!!!!! THE DOG IS NOT FOR SALE EITHER........
     
    JohanB, Jul 1, 2004
    #12
  13. Grumpy

    Rob Munach Guest

    JohanB wrote:

    Actually, my brother-in-law just had to get new bearings in the rear of
    his JGC at 100,000 miles. I thought that was unusual.
     
    Rob Munach, Jul 1, 2004
    #13
  14. Grumpy

    Grumpy Guest

    Thank you for pointing out the oversight!!

    God Bless.

    Save your hard earned cash - Don't buy Jeep
     
    Grumpy, Jul 1, 2004
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  15. Grumpy

    Jerry McG Guest

    I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
    towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
    changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
    three times.

    Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
    contamination and breakdown.
     
    Jerry McG, Jul 1, 2004
    #15
  16. Grumpy

    RPhillips47 Guest

    Yeah - my JGC has 194,000 miles and still has the original bearings.
     
    RPhillips47, Jul 1, 2004
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  17. Grumpy

    Kuzie Guest

    I have had 4 Cherokees (85, 87, 88 & 91) and 1 Grand Cherokee (95) all well
    over
    100K miles and never had a diff bearing problem. The 91 Cherokee has 180K
    miles
    and still runs great. These all had Dana 30 &35 axles though. Have changed
    the diff
    gear lube every 30K miles too.
    Greg
     
    Kuzie, Jul 1, 2004
    #17
  18. Grumpy

    Rob Munach Guest

    My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
    off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
    people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
    bearing problems.
     
    Rob Munach, Jul 2, 2004
    #18
  19. Grumpy

    Kuzie Guest

    So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
    experience

    engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
    lubricants

    per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the

    manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
    without

    a single differential problem.
     
    Kuzie, Jul 2, 2004
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  20. Grumpy

    Jerry McG Guest

    That was definitly caused by lubricant breakdown & reusltant metal
    contamination. My hunch is it the vehicle was overloaded or got overstressed
    towing something beyong its capacity. The giveaway is the scoring on the
    outer axle bearings & the axle shafts.

    FWIW, the Grand Cherokee factory maintenance schedule calls for 12k mile
    differential fluid changes if it's used for towing & heavy loads (i.e.,
    severe duty). It also calls for an 80w-140 lubricant in the rear axle in
    those cases.

    That thing had to be growlng like a pack of mad dogs for a long time, too.
    Would have paid to look into it earlier.
     
    Jerry McG, Jul 2, 2004
    #20
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