GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by DeserTBoB, Dec 1, 2007.

  1. DeserTBoB

    DeserTBoB Guest

    The guy probably most responsible for the bad business decisions that
    tanked GM as a world leader in the auto business has died...Roger
    Smith, target of Michael Moore's widely viewed documentary, "Roger &
    Me," died after an "unspecified illness" near Detroit (probably Royal
    Oak; GM's press hacks wouldn't say) at 82.

    Smith was GM's first "bean counter" CEO, not a car guy, not an
    engineer, and finished the long, hard attempt by the headquarters
    accounting wing of GM to take over all of GM's business decisions, in
    contradiction to the "loose federation" business model put in place by
    Al Sloan in the '30s, which made GM an inventive and successful
    powerhouse.

    Among Smith's disasters were Saturn, which turned out to be somewhat
    of a fraud to the car buying public, which was promised "no hassle, no
    haggle" dealerships, which turned out to simply be an advertising
    hoax. Instead, GM wasted the opportunity to truly remake the "GM
    culture" but simply extending it to yet another division building and
    selling mediocre designs. Meanwhile, while keeping Saturn a separate
    division, Smith succeeded in destroying the car, truck and bus
    division that made GM what it was by "badge engineering" corporate
    headquarters designs and placing all former "division" functions into
    a single, accounting-controlled "manufacturing department," with the
    exception of Cadillac. Cadillac was still trimmed excessively, which
    hampered their efforts to compete with the Euros, the Japanese and
    with Ford's Lincoln-Mercury Division. The public got wind of this
    really quickly, and, despite accolades today from the auto cognoscenti
    in Detroit, Smith saw GM's market share in the US fall from 46% to 32%
    under his watch. This wasn't in spite of Smith's efforts, it was
    directly because of them. Bean counters don't build cars...car guys
    do, and Smith was anything other than a car guy. GM does now have a
    couple of "car guys" in top management (Bob Lutz from Iacocca's
    Chrysler comes to mind) but they're kept in check by the accounting
    honchos and aren't allowed to innovate.

    Under Smith, all GM cars were simply "GM this or that," with no brand
    individuality in engineering or model offerings. Smith directed the
    newly formed "manufacturing department" to use the cheapest possible
    drive train components, such as using the inferior Chevy small block
    V8 and Chevette HydraMatic even in Cadillac lines, and the tired Buick
    V6 for almost everything else. Chevrolet, the lowest regarded of all
    GM divisions for decades, was allowed to keep its own engines and
    transmissions, while superior power train products from Olds, Buick,
    Detroit Gear, Saginaw and Delco were trashed to cut costs.

    Wagoner, the current flailing GM CEO, praised Smith for 'preparing GM
    for the global competition it now faces.' Pretty words, but too bad
    they're a lie. The truth is that Smith started the long, steep
    decline of GM that they're suffering today. Continuing the slaughter,
    Smith descendents Stempel and Wagoner stripped GM of GM Truck and
    Coach, all car divisions, Delco-Remy, AC Spark Plug, Electro-Motive
    Division, Detroit (Cleveland) Diesel, Allison Division, Frigidaire
    Division and practically everything of value that GM had since the
    1920s. Wagoner's hardly any better; since he took over from Stempel,
    GM's market share has sunk now to an all-time low of 24%, with
    promised hot models never making it to market, instead content to try
    to sell rebadged Aussie Holdens as "GTOs" and similar cheesy GM
    rebadge gaffes.

    Nice going, Roger...hope you'd enjoy Honda, Nissan and Toyota
    posthumously eating your lunch...and breakfast...and dinner...and
    desserts. You deserve it, as well as having a thousand UAW members
    piss on your grave, not to mention the populations of the cities of
    Flint, Lansing and half the state of Michigan.
     
    DeserTBoB, Dec 1, 2007
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  2. The irony about "Roger and Me" was Michael Moore eventually got to sit
    down with Roger and talk. However he felt that this wouldn't work with
    the movie so he left that part out of it.
     
    David E. Powell, Dec 7, 2007
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    DeserTBoB Guest

    The operative word in that sentence being "eventually."
    Smith finally broke down and agreed to a sit-down with Moore AFTER
    filming was wrapped and the picture was already through post
    production. He had his chance, but decided to do a Jack Welch and
    stonewall. He got what he deserved. The wreckage that is GM now is
    mostly due to bad decisions he made, continued as they were by Stempel
    and Wagoner.

    Smith's two biggest boners: shedding the "Sloan model" and making GM
    just another bean-counter-run money grubbing American corporation. All
    of the inventiveness, creativity and drive to excel that marked GM's
    rise to #1 all during the Sloan era was gone. The second was Saturn,
    which COULD have been a good thing, but wound up just being part of
    Smith's failed "southern strategy" to move all GM manufacturing out of
    Michigan, the Midwest and California and into backward southern
    states, which are reliably anti-labor and whose desperate state and
    local governments were forking over billions in tax breaks.

    Saturn's designs were mediocre at best (the plastic skin idea was
    robbed from Pontiac, everything else was also-ran GM designs not used
    by the other "divisions") and, although quality of assembly was higher
    than other GM products, it still couldn't match that of the Japanese
    competitors. The whole "no-hassle dealer" idea turned out to just be
    yet another GM advertising gimmick. Lee Iacocca even questions the
    wisdom of hanging onto Smith's failed idea, as he also questions the
    validity of Ford's Mercury line, which now is just a "dress-up" option
    for the Ford line.

    Ford, however, is coming out with some pretty darned good new
    products, while GM's got their design transmission stuck in permanent
    reverse. The real sleeper was the 500, which got a Fusion grill and
    was rebadged back to Taurus...a VERY nice car. Chrysler, now a toy
    for private equity hacks to play with, will probably tank soon due to
    mismanagement, since La Sorda probably won't put up with the new
    owners for very long if they don't behave. Remember, it was Ford's
    going public and AWAY from total Ford family control in 1956 that
    saved the company, even if drunkard King Henry II didn't necessarily
    see it that way. The reverse could be very true of Cerberus' grabbing
    of Chrysler. Lack of oversight and accountability always breeds bad
    management, no matter what the industry.
     
    DeserTBoB, Dec 7, 2007
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Well, yeah. That's a standard part of Moore's "documentaries".
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Dec 7, 2007
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    Gosi Guest

    It is interesting how bean counters can ruin companies.

    Around 1980 John Sculley came to Apple and eventually fired Steve Jobs
    and nearly ruined the company.

    Similarly in IBM Opel and Akers took the company on a spiraling slope
    downwards.

    It is like they say about Bush that he is a master of creating small
    companies.
    He starts with big companies and makes them small.
     
    Gosi, Dec 8, 2007
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    philthy Guest

    the whole movie was based on the crap that asshole pulled and gm still
    uses today to **** people who work for them
     
    philthy, Dec 8, 2007
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    Bill Putney Guest

    That's a great example of a non-sequitur. Idiot.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 9, 2007
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    Steve Guest

    And that's a surprise? MM never lets reality get in his way.
     
    Steve, Dec 10, 2007
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