GM joins Ford in jettisoning the minivan market

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Just Facts, Dec 16, 2006.

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    Mike Hunter Guest

    Regardless of which brand is used in your area, what I posted is fact not
    opinion. ;)

    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Dec 22, 2006
    #81
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    PerfectReign Guest

    lol!
     
    PerfectReign, Dec 22, 2006
    #82
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    Guest Guest

    They need more than one dealer to store their excess inventory. >:)
     
    Guest, Dec 24, 2006
    #83
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    Guest Guest

    Correct they don't build excess then dump it on rental & lease firms,
    killing the resale value for 1 or 2 years.
     
    Guest, Dec 24, 2006
    #84
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    Steve Guest

    Why not? The Northstar is a great engine (for 1993), but it doesn't have
    MDS like the Hemi does.
     
    Steve, Dec 24, 2006
    #85
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    Steve Guest

    The Impala has a niche. University and public school district police
    departments are what use them around here.

    When the Ford Interceptor gets de-throned, it will be by a rear-drive
    car. The Charger is the best bet to do the de-throning right now, but a
    lot of PDs are very entrenched and slow to change. Hell, that's the same
    reason they were still buying M-body Mopar copcars back in the 80s-
    because they'd always bought Mopar in the past. It sure wasn't the
    blistering performance of an 8:1 compression 318 and 2.45 rear-end ratio!
     
    Steve, Dec 24, 2006
    #86
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    Steve Guest

    You misspelled a word. Its not n-e-v-e-r, its spelled a-l-w-a-y-s.
     
    Steve, Dec 24, 2006
    #87
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    Steve Guest

    Given that the Toy will break whenever you try to do any sort of work
    more serious than driving to dinner in it...
     
    Steve, Dec 24, 2006
    #88
  9. No, they will just be guys with grade 12 educations and 2 years run through
    an
    associates class trying to troubleshoot and diagnose the car that a bunch of
    robots put together on an assembly line. A car, that is, which isn't
    designed
    to be repaired. As a result if your a new car buyer you will probably be
    having
    to get used to discarding your car when it fails, and buying a new one.
    Hope
    your wallet can stand it.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Dec 24, 2006
    #89
  10. Do you think they will be taught the proper use of contractions? :)
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Dec 24, 2006
    #90
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    Really? That may be your opinion but crossovers are not SUVs and Toyota and
    Honda do not offer AWD sedans. Both of those markets are the fasted
    growing markets in the US Audi and Subaru are also-rans when it comes to
    sales in the US. According to CR's and several other recent new car owners
    surveys the Fusion and Milan have outscored the Accord and Camry. CR
    pointed out the V6 Fusion sells for thousands less than the 4 cy Camry as
    well. As to what buyers chose to buy based on past experience, both GM and
    Ford outsell Toyota and every other import brand in the US ;)


    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Dec 24, 2006
    #91
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    What in the world make you believe import brands do not try to sell to
    fleets and rental car companies? They certainly do, they are just not very
    successful at selling to fleets, with the exception of the Koreans.
    Imports do in fact sell to rental car companies however and in bug numbers..
    All manufactures offer discounts to fleets and rental car companies. It
    ranges between $600 and $800


    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Dec 24, 2006
    #92
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    The highway mileage, listed in the CAFE Guide, is 25 MPG.


    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Dec 24, 2006
    #93
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    No it was the $2,500 lower purchase price LOL


    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Dec 24, 2006
    #94
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    GM and Ford were smart to get out of the minivan business, at this point.

    1. Why waists capitol in a declining market, with an ever increasing number
    of competitors?
    2. Chrysler dominates the market at around 48% of the sales, with six
    others to share the balance
    3. After 20 years of trying, the Japs are finally offering vans that can
    compete with what you offer.
    4. The competition can built their van for around 1/3 less than you can.

    Good more GM and Ford, concentrate your capitol on the fast growing COV and
    AWD market instead.


    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Dec 24, 2006
    #95
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    cavedweller Guest

    In you're dreams. :))
     
    cavedweller, Dec 24, 2006
    #96
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    Joe Guest

    Ill just be happy if they learn to use punctuation thats what I don't like?
     
    Joe, Dec 24, 2006
    #97
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    Steve Guest

    Yes it is. Pretty impressive for a car that moves like the LX cars do.
     
    Steve, Dec 24, 2006
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    Steve Guest


    Well, that and the fact that you couldn't wear them out with sand in the
    oil and driving 80 mph on railroad tracks. Damn those things were
    un-killable!
     
    Steve, Dec 24, 2006
    #99
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    who Guest

    Unfortunately GM & Ford are already showing weakness in those markets.
     
    who, Dec 25, 2006
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