GM, Chrysler deal threatened by financing

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jim Higgins, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Jim Higgins

    Jim Higgins Guest

    GM, Chrysler deal threatened by financing
    http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081020/ANA02/310209884/1128

    Automotive News | October 20, 2008 - 7:45 pm EST

    DETROIT (Reuters) -- General Motors has detailed a plan to slash costs
    at Chrysler LLC but initial attempts to secure financing for the
    controversial merger have been rebuffed, raising new doubts about
    whether it can be completed without government aid.

    GM Chief Operating Officer Fritz Henderson and the executive team
    leading talks with Chrysler's majority owner Cerberus Capital Management
    LP believe GM can strike a deal to pick up Chrysler's most valuable
    assets and shore up its own cash position in the process, according to
    people familiar with the talks who were not authorized to discuss the
    negotiations.

    But an acquisition would be expensive, and finding financing in current
    markets for a merger between companies that have been losing billions
    and burning through cash rapidly is proving to be a tall order.

    Chrysler has $9 billion in debt that, under a change of control, would
    have to be paid off if it cannot be refinanced.

    Additionally, a cash-strapped GM needs between $4 billion and $5 billion
    for payouts for the estimated 30,000 to 40,000 jobs that would be cut
    through a merger and to close most of Chrysler's 14 assembly plants, the
    sources said.

    To put that additional funding in perspective, GM's market
    capitalization was only $3.7 billion as of Monday.

    GM had about $21 billion in cash at the end of the second quarter, but
    it was burning through more than $1 billion a month. The automaker has
    counted on its ability to raise up to $5 billion through a combination
    of borrowing and asset sales to make it through 2009, but the recent
    churn in credit markets has threatened that goal, analysts say.

    GM wants access to Chrysler's cash -- about $11.7 billion at the end of
    June -- in the event of a merger, sources have said. But some of that
    cash would have to be used to pay down Chrysler's borrowing if it cannot
    be restructured.

    The risk associated with such a deal amid collapsing demand for autos in
    key markets in Europe and the United States has scared off potential
    investors already, sources said.

    And the UAW, which has already loaned GM $1.7 billion at 9 percent, is
    seen as a long shot to fund a deal that could cut Chrysler's factory
    work force in half.

    Ultimately, whether the deal gets done or not could come down to whether
    the U.S. government steps in as lender and investor of last resort, one
    banker said.

    "It's like a Kabuki dance," another person familiar with the talks said.
    "Everyone already knows the outcome. They are going to have to go to the
    Fed for money."

    Executives on both sides worry that the window to seek U.S. government
    aid for the merger could close after the presidential election on Nov.
    4, a race that has seen both Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John
    McCain express support for the the troubled auto industry.

    "There's a feeling that if this is not done in the next two weeks, it
    won't get done at all," said one person briefed on the ongoing talks.

    'A GREAT DEGREE OF APPREHENSION'

    Representatives of GM and Cerberus have approached at least one major
    investor with a pitch to invest in the deal, a source briefed on the
    matter told Reuters.

    The pitch for a capital injection for a merged automaker that would
    control about a third of the U.S. light-vehicle market was met with "a
    great degree of apprehension," the person said.

    The result has been a volatile set of negotiations between Cerberus and
    GM with both sides looking closer to a deal and then seeing it in danger
    of falling apart, one person involved in the talks said.

    Cerberus has also had talks with Renault-Nissan, the joint venture of
    the French and Japanese carmakers, on its interest in Chrysler, sources
    have said.

    U.S. auto sales have slid to 15-year lows this year and are expected to
    drop further in October as credit tightens for consumers. GM's sales
    were off 18 percent through September. Chrysler's sales fell 25 percent.

    There are no clear alternative sources for funding and both Cerberus and
    GM have been hit by the extraordinary pressure on credit markets since
    late summer.

    Existing Cerberus creditors are also wary of restructuring the $7
    billion bank term loan due in 2013, a person briefed on the financing
    effort said.

    Banks including JP Morgan, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs
    underwrote that loan, now trading at 36-40 cents on the dollar. Those
    lenders are eager to see a deal done but are balking at helping finance
    what is looked at as a risky investment, one source said.

    Analysts have been deeply skeptical of the benefits of the merger,
    arguing that it presents high costs upfront and uncertain prospects that
    enough savings can be wrung out of the combined company fast enough.

    JP Morgan analyst Himanshu Patel said a GM-Chrysler merger would
    represent a "high-risk transaction," but could also position the
    combined automaker to extract more concessions from the UAW and secure
    new financing.

    The key, he said in a note for clients, would be if GM is seen as
    "saving Chrysler from insolvency."
     
    Jim Higgins, Oct 21, 2008
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    MoPar Man Guest

    If GM wants cash, why don't they buy an investment bank?

    They should have bought Lehman Brothers or Wachovia, or Washington
    Mutual when they had the chance...

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    Explain this:

    I'm selling my house. Say it's worth $200k.

    I've removed all my personal stuff. Basically just empty rooms, a few
    appliances.

    I leave $100k in cash on the floor in the living room.

    I offer to sell the whole thing for $300k.

    The buyer will have to get a mortgage for $300k.

    Instead of leaving $100k cash on the floor, I take it with me, and set
    the asking price to $200k. The buyer will have to get a mortgage for
    $200k. Maybe it's easier to get a $200k mortgage vs a 300k mortgage
    today. If the buyer wants my house *and* $100k cash in his pocket, then
    he can go get a personal loan for $100k.

    If the buyer just wants the $100k cash - and not necessarily the house,
    then how does buying my $200k house with $100k sitting on the floor help
    him get it when he has to fork over $300k to me to get it?

    What am I missing here?
     
    MoPar Man, Oct 21, 2008
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  3. Jim Higgins

    Jim Higgins Guest

    The words "Byzantine" or "bizarre" seem to be the only words that come
    slightly close to describing these convoluted deals. Normal human
    understanding is out the window.
     
    Jim Higgins, Oct 21, 2008
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    Miles Guest

    Miles, Oct 23, 2008
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