Gas Mileage problem -Solved!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by NewMan, May 7, 2007.

  1. NewMan

    NewMan Guest

    Hi All,

    Remember when I purchased my newer 2002 Grand Caravan? And how I
    simply was NOT satisfied with the mileage???

    Well I am in to solving problems, and have a warranty, so all kinds of
    things have been done - to no avail! It runs real smooth, just not
    nearly the mileage I used to get with my 1994 GC with the same
    displacement engine (3.3 litre).

    I am also one who believes in proper maintenance, so being as I was at
    about 101,000 km, and I had NO faith that the previous owner did ANY
    preventive maintenance... off to my favourite Trans Shop for the
    installation of a booster cooler, and a complete fluid change with new
    filter.

    Fair enough, service when as planned, no nasty little surprizes at the
    trans shop, no codes, all is well.

    And if I thought it shifted good before, it is AWESOME now!

    All good. Then....

    I have the overhead console - and I have it set to display my mileage
    in real time. In driving around over the last couple of weeks, I
    happened to glance up. My MPG is UP! by about 4 to 6 MPG! This puts
    the new van EXACTLY in line with my 1994!

    I never noticed this with the 1994 because the trans DIED about 2
    weeks after I purchased it! So when it was rebuilt, it had new fluid
    in it.

    I will keep detailed mileage logs for a while to confirm, but the
    readings persist, and are consistant - and the ONLY recent change was
    the tranmission fluid!

    As if doing this PM as a matter of course was not enough, and as a
    matter of saving your trans, now you have ONE MORE reason to do it! At
    todays gas prices, that extra MPG will quickly pay for the cost of the
    service!

    Just thought you would like to know!

    :)
     
    NewMan, May 7, 2007
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  2. NewMan

    kmath50 Guest

    The best mileage that I have ever seen with my 1993 GV with a 3.3 is
    about 23 MPG highway. I don't know how that compares with what you are
    getting.

    -Kirk M
     
    kmath50, May 8, 2007
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  3. NewMan

    NewMan Guest

    With my 1994 GC I was getting about 25 Miles per US Gallon on the
    highway - fully loaded with A/C ON. With light load and A/C off, 27
    Miules per US Gallon was not unheard of (roads around here fairly flat
    - no "mountain" driving).

    City driving used to be 19 to 22 Miles per US gallon.

    So far, in my 2002 GC, I am seeing the meter jump between 27 and 33
    Miles per US Gallon on the minor highways around town (no traffic
    lights).

    I will keep an eye on this the next time I go for a major trip.
     
    NewMan, May 8, 2007
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  4. NewMan

    Just Facts Guest

    I suggest collecting data between fills for a more accurate MPG reading.
    I keep a record of all my fills and ODO, so I know exactly my MPG.
     
    Just Facts, May 8, 2007
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  5. NewMan

    NewMan Guest

    Yes, this is what I usually do as well. Fill to full, and record the
    kms on the ODO. That is the REAL measure, although there is some
    subjectivity to what is "full", but since I pump it the variation
    should be reduced. :)

    I don't drive too much these days, so I will post back when I have
    more data.
     
    NewMan, May 8, 2007
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  6. NewMan

    Richard Guest

    I seriously doubt a fluid change made any difference. Chrysler does not
    recommend changing out the +4 fluid; ever! (Not that I follow that
    recommendation myself). Only if the vehicle was stuck in the wrong higher
    gear would the transmission make much difference in fuel consumption. Now,
    if Chrysler would give us direct fuel injection we might see a real
    improvement in both performance and fuel economy.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, May 8, 2007
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  7. NewMan

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    While I'm also skeptical that the fluid change would make much gas
    mileage difference (maybe it was so low the transmission was in
    limp-home mode?), my 2000 Intrepid FSM recommends changing the
    transmission fluid every 100K miles in normal service, every 48K miles
    in severe service conditions.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, May 8, 2007
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  8. NewMan

    maxpower Guest

    Keeping in mind that there is a difference between winter and summer fuel.
    Could this be the difference in gas mileage?

    Glenn
     
    maxpower, May 8, 2007
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  9. NewMan

    NewMan Guest

    I don't think so. We purchased the Van last summer (late July). The
    mileage has been consistantly low since the day we purchased it. If
    seasonal gas variations were the reason, then I would have expected
    that the mileage in the summer was good, and then it should have gone
    down in the winter.

    Besides, we try not to drive too much with todays prices. I had topped
    up the tank just a day or so before going to the shop, and the mileage
    was still low by caluculation, and low by reading on the overhead
    console.

    Now the overhead console reads better MPG. So I am waiting for the
    next fill to see if the calculated value bears out the console
    readings. Who knows, maybe my overhead console is in the fritz! But
    that is also covered by my extended warranty, so I am NOT worried. :)

    So far, the only change - or should I say the only change I am aware
    of, was the transmission fluid. Whoddathunkit?
     
    NewMan, May 9, 2007
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