Fuel Pumps

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jami, Jul 23, 2003.

  1. Jami

    Jami Guest

    Hi,
    I have had several 88 - 93 chryslers and I am about tired of changing
    fuel pumps in the tank.
    I now have a 1988 Chyrsler lebaron convt. Pump has gotten rather noisy
    and would like to know if I can get away with hooking up a pump into
    the original wire/ plugs and mounting out side some place.

    also if so will the original pump alow fuel to flow with out running
    it?
    Thank you
    Jami
     
    Jami, Jul 23, 2003
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  2. Jami

    Neil Nelson Guest

    All electric fuel pumps fail eventually, frequent and repeat
    failures indicate that they are being murdered for whatever
    reason.
    There are a number of Asian imports that used external fuel
    pumps on EFI systems, so yes, it is feasable but such a
    modification would leave you wide open for liability should
    something catastrophic occur.
    Trying to pull fuel thru a stopped fuel pump with another
    pump is only going to make the scabbed on pump work harder
    hastening its demise. You'll also be inviting vapor lock to
    occur somewhere between the two pumps. Whether it could do
    it or not is irrelevant since it would be defeating a large
    part of the reason you're modifying it to begin with.

    Yesterday I replaced the original fuel pump, tank, sending
    unit and straps on a 1990 Pontiac 6000 with 205,000 miles on
    it. The replacement was not because of a pump failure, it
    was because the tank, straps and sending unit were rusted to
    the point that it all needed preventative maintanance, (the
    new pump was insurance, though it looked fine on my
    labscope). GM has no exclusive on pump longevity, so if
    this vehicle owner can get decent life from his, one can
    only wonder what you're doing to shorten your fuel pumps
    life.
     
    Neil Nelson, Jul 25, 2003
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  3. Jami

    Mike Behnke Guest

    Consistently running with a fuel level under 3/8 tank. The in-tank
    pumps use the the gas a a cooling medium.

    No gas = Insufficient cooling = Premature pump failure.


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    Mike Behnke, Jul 25, 2003
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  4. Jami

    Oppie Guest

    Got my relacement from Carquest. they sell it as pump only or an entire
    assembly for a bit more. I got the pump only and was able to transfer all
    the other parts. Paid in the range of $90 as I recall.

    Worth mentioning that the fuel filler neck has to come off when dropping the
    tank out of the vehicle. This is a slip fit bushing into the tank. Replace
    the bushing and lube the filler tube when re-inserting it. Avoids forcing
    and tears.
    Oppie
     
    Oppie, Jul 28, 2003
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  5. Jami

    Eric May Guest

    Yes, it is true that the fuel cools the pump (not that the pump produces
    much heat). But it is the fuel that passes through the pump that cools it.
    That means as long as there's sufficient fuel in the tank to keep the pump
    suction submerged, the pump is adequately cooled. That's not much fuel.

    If you actually run out of fuel, the engine will stop and that will shut
    down the pump before any damage occurs.

    I've always run the tanks on my fuel injected cars down to about 1/8 tank
    before refilling and never had a problem with a pump failure.
     
    Eric May, Jul 30, 2003
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  6. Jami

    Steve Guest

    If the tank is empty, the engine will stall. When the engine stalls, the
    ECM will detect no ignition sync signal, and will trip the auto-shutdown
    relay, shutting off the fuel pump.

    In other words, "nope."
     
    Steve, Jul 30, 2003
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