Found in barn, complete

Let's see a picture of the actual engine compartment then. Funny how
you didn't mention a Hemi engine, until now- (laughter...)

 

I've restored many cars- DoucheBob has no clue what he's in for- he
never even pulled an engine out in his life.

 

ps- ask him for pictures- and you'll get a big eye opener...

 

The real question is, how come you never mentioned the Hemi motor in
your original description ? All you mentioned is "the original 270"

There were many different 270's- and they were all prone to crankshaft
breakage- so we don't know if that's the original engine or not,
because you didn't run the VIN code or engine ID code.

What he may have there is a hodge-podge of parts, i.e. a 4-barrel carb
and intake on a Poly engine, etc.

One starts to doubt if your description is true or not.

A picture of the engine would suffice.

If that has a 270 Hemi in it ?? Yes, it's worth saving and restoring.

But overall, those small block Dodge hemis are no big deal- I know
where there are a few Dodge hemi engines in the junkyards here. One
day we went out on a search for Pontiac 455's, and found 2 Chrysler
331/354 hemis and a 241 deSoto hemi, all still in cars.

The 392 Hemi is the keeper of that vintage Hemi bunch. If you can't
have a 2nd gen 426 Hemi, get a 392 car.

FWIW, all the modern engines are Hemi heads or variations of such. My
' 95 GP has a DOHC head, 4-valve per cylinder, hemi heads.

 

You've been asked many times to post a picture of your Firebird you
bragged about and you've posted NOTHING
so it's pretty ironic that you would even mention someone else posting
a picture. This is just more of your trolling.

 

WRONG- not all 270's are Hemis. They actually made more POLY engines,
than Hemis. That shows what you know. And the Dodge Royal Lancer came
with a POLY as standard equipment. You had to order the CUSTOM to get
the Hemi. And you didn't specify that was a Custom. There is a slight
chance that is a car that someone special ordered with the SRR Hemi as
a dealer/factory option- but those chances are very slim. The buyer
profile you listed, sounds like someone that just walked into a
showroom and bought the standard equipment car that year. Another
oddity is, you made no mention of a SUPER RED RAM engine in your OP-
which is emblazoned directly across each valve cover- something a
wannabee like you would be cackling about if it was there. But if you
can supply pics of the car, engine, vin number, and title- I'll stand
corrected. Until then, the burden of proof is on you. FWIW, those cars
sell for $10,000-15,000 in pristine condition- less than what it would
cost to restore one.

And my account is working fine.

http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/dodge-c4.htm

Dodge Hemispheric vs. Polyspheric Motor Comments
Development and Description
Less expensive, lighter variants of the Dodge hemi motors were
developed, and introduced in 1955 for installation in the mid-priced
Dodge cars. These new motors used the existing hemi block, but
completely different heads, exhaust manifolds, pushrods, pistons, etc.
with only a single rocker shaft in each head; the same intake manifolds

were used in many cases (but not the dual 4 bbl.). These motors were
called "poly" (for poly-spheric: meaning "more than one
sphere"), since the combustion chamber was now formed by two separate
concave domed shapes (the valve seats and surrounding reliefs).
Poly motors are also called single rocker shaft ("SRS"), while
hemi motors are dual rocker shaft ("DRS").
Conversion of Dodge Poly Motors to Hemi
1955-58 Dodge 241, 259, 270, 315 & 325 poly motors can be converted

to hemi by substitution of hemi parts using Dodge parts only.
If the original pistons are used, the motor will run, but have
lower compression since the poly piston does not have a compression
dome. The crankshaft balance will also be affected, since the hemi
pistons are heavier in most cases due to the dome. Heads should be
selected from motors of the same or smaller bore size to prevent the
chamber from overhanging the bore, but some choices may be available as

to port size, valve size and chamber volume. Manifolds must match the
deck height (low or raised). Hemi head bolts must be used.
DeSoto Poly Motors
Although "wide-block"poly motors were used in lower-priced
1955-58 DeSoto models, they are Dodge engines based on the Dodge hemi
motor. These and the 1955-56 Plymouths using these motors can be
converted by using Dodge hemi parts as described above. There is no
poly motor based on the DeSoto hemi series.
Chrysler Poly Motors
Chrysler 1955-58 Saratoga and Windsor 301, 331 & 354 poly motors
are based on the Chrysler hemi motors, which are only distantly related

to other brands.
Poly "A" Motors
There is no hemi motor based on the "A" series poly motor as
used in Plymouths 1956-67 and some Dodges 1958-59, and no conversion by

direct substitution is possible.
The "A" poly motor is very similar in design to the earlier
hemi-derived poly motors, but parts are not generally interchangable.
Notes
All 1951-57 Chrysler, DeSoto, Dodge and Plymouth V8 motors,
regardless of family, size or type, have the distributor located in the

rear of the engine. Only 1958-* "B" and "RB" type motors, both
wedge and hemi, have front-mounted distributors.
There is no commonality of parts or dimensions between the early
(1951-58) motors and late (1964-*) hemi motors, which were developed by

adapting hemi technology to the "RB" motors.
The Table below contains "Maximum Compression Distance" data.
This is not measured or taken from factory information, it is
calculated on the basis of .000" deck height (with the piston's top
surface flush with the cylinder bank head gasket surface) with the
tallest possible theoretical piston (measured between the piston pin
center and the top surface).

 

Who the hell cares? Most of us have real lives, and Usenet is just an
entertaining diversion for a few minutes every other day or so. I don't
care if this Lancer or the other guy's Firebird are real cars or not.
It's just a conversation, right?

 

You cared enough to respond.

Charlie Nudo claimed it was "punishment".

 

I cared enough to make conversation, but I don't care enough to demand
proof. If the guy on the other end has a real car that he wants to talk
about, we can talk about it and perhaps even accomplish something. But
if he's a delusional freak who doesn't even have a car, I don't care
enough to demand a photo. It's just not that important.

Regarding Charlie, Bob, and whoever else is involved in this mess, they
can punish each other all they want. They are wasting time and soiling
their own reputations when they try to win the general public over to
their own side, however. I really don't think that most folks here give
a rip one way or the other. We're just talking about cars.

Nudo obviously has a large emotional investment in this matter, and my
gut reaction tells me that he's about 80% malarkey. I don't know what
the deal is with Bob. He may be full of crap, too. I wouldn't be
surprised I've seen the same fight a million times since 1995 when I
got my first internet account. I even got mixed up in a few shouting
matches myself before I discovered that it doesn't mean a thing.
Believe it or not, there are a bunch of guys who treat radio controlled
airplanes as if they were a life-or-death issue, and they have made
bitter enemies on a model airplane discussion group. (I sure found a
few irritating people there...) The whole thing is ridiculous.


Realistically, any information you need is probably available from
better sources than Usenet. People come here to talk to other people.
The most important issue in this discussion is that there is no need to
warn the group about an individual. We can all see each individual
revealed in his/her own posts.

 

I agree except that 80% figure is probably low, more like 99%.

 

yes, but you didn't say yours was a CUSTOM royal lancer, you just said
royal lancer

that means POLY, which was standard equip for the royal lancer

otherwise, show us some pics of the actual engine compartment, with you
standing there- not pastes from the net

 

All of a sudden, dB's "Royal Lancer Sedan" is a CUSTOM with a Hemi 270.

But his OP failed to mention the "Custom" and "Hemi" features.

He did some net research, and found out is has to be a D-50A optioned
car, to be a Hemi

yeh, sure it is- the entry fee for one of those RARE cars is $10,000-
so get back in your rotted Honda, and forget it, Broomstick Cowboy !!


http://www.azcarsandtrucks.com/1955royal.html

http://www.autohopper.com/forsale/auto.asp?WI=2276304073

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodg...005QQitemZ150028795224QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114&PN=1

 

All of a sudden, dB's "Royal Lancer Sedan" is a CUSTOM with a Hemi 270.


But his OP failed to mention the "Custom" and "Hemi" features.

He did some net research, and found out is has to be a late 1954 D-50A
optioned
car, or a 1955 D-553 optioned car, to be a Hemi

yeh, sure it is- the entry fee for one of those ULTRA RARE cars is
$10,000-
so get back in your rotted Honda, and forget it, Broomstick Cowboy !!
They're considering your lowball offer, and laughing
at your Honda as you drive away, with the rag in your gas cap
fluttering gracefully in the breeze...

Like you could feed a 12 mpg Hemi car ?? All you talk about is gas
mileage.


http://www.azcarsandtrucks.com/1955royal.html


http://www.autohopper.com/forsale/auto.asp?WI=2276304073


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Lancer-1955-DODGE-CUSTOM-ROYAL-L...



http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114&PN=1

 

http://classichemi.com/fred3.wav

I stand corrected, Boob just pulled in with his car...sounds good
too... (??!!)

that must smell really nice inside...

 

here ya go, Daddy LowBucks...here's a rare ' 55 CUSTOM ROYAL Dodge
Hemi car over $5K right now, in mint shape, and still didn't hit
reserve

let's see you put your monopoly money where your mouth is, and bid on
it

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodg...005QQitemZ150028795224QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

wait and see just how much it is really worth- a SUPER RARE option

your $3000 offer would buy the valve covers and hub caps, that's about
it

 

Here's an actual picture of Charlie Nudo's Ford pickup that he posted
in the 8 track group.

http://i6.tinypic.com/27zdm2w.jpg

 

Without responding directly to this megatroll, this car has the
"Custom Royal Lancer" script on the front fenders, as was the normal
placement in '55, and the "HEMI" badges on the front fenders on BOTH
sides. It also has the "Royal Lancer" windsplits on the rear fender
top ridges, and has the "Custom Royal Lancer" gold plated script on
those as well. The example he showed is incorrect, as it shows only
"Royal Lancer" front fender script and a badge only on ONE side. His
example is also only painted in turquoise and white, while Custom
Royal Lancers for '55 and '56 had tri-tone paint as standard, optional
on Royal Lancers. This may not be a tell-tale, as it's a repaint
anyway. It also has the correct headlight door trim and the special
surrounds for the tail lights, AND backup lights...standard ONLY on
the Custom. The car he shows MAY well be a poseur, which would be
normal for Charlie Nudo, who makes his living selling frauds and fakes
anyway. I should know...he defrauded me twice, and eBay lets him
continue on, although he's being more closely watched now with
multiple account suspensions for his 66fourdoor account..

I'm sure this will cause more trolling/flaming posts by the megatroll,
but his account's going to be dead again soon, so no biggie.

 

still waiting for those pics of the SRR Hemi- all I see is talk...

let's check what the nice minty one on Ebay is up to now- the one you
can't afford

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodg...005QQitemZ150028795224QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

$8600 and climbing, and still has not reached reserve

you really think this group believes, you can find one for $3000 ?

sure you can, and get us a few ten cent cokes in the returnable
hourglass shaped glass bottles, from the vending machine, down at the
Esso gas station. You know, the one where you pull the bottles
straight out after opening that little door...

you found a slug Poly 270

 

even if you did find one, you can't afford it- so you may as well be
looking at a Ferrari...and raving about it...

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodg...005QQitemZ150028795224QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


the model he is "wishing" that car is, is a lot more valuable than his
paltry lowball $3000 offer- he most likely found a Royal Lancer 4-door-
which he is now parading as a "Custom" model- the custom with the SRR
Hemi was ultra rare- this one on Ebay is up to $8600 and has not
reached reserve yet. If you look around the net you'll see they never
sell for less than $10,000- dB did some net research and realized to
pass his car off as a Hemi, he had to upgrade it's trim level status to
Custom- notice now in his original post, he just said "Royal Lancer
Sedan" with "original 270", then he went on to say "the 270 IS a Hemi"-
he was assuming that ALL 270's are Hemis- they are not- he had no idea
a Poly version of the 270 existed

He found a poly 270 4-door no doubt, that looks like a family of
doberman pinchers was living in it for 10 years...

time will tell...even a dumb squirrel gets a nut once in a while...but
knowing dB's net personality, Vegas odds says he's lying as usual- he's
known for reporting the news as he "hopes" it might happen