Former Chrysler Chiefs Defend Deal As Merger Of Equals

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003.

  1. Lloyd Parker

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    It's informed testimony by people who were there at the time, unlike all the
    fools here who think anything associated with Daimler is the devil himself.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Dec 5, 2003
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  2. Lloyd Parker

    Geoff Guest

    From http://www.thecarconnection.com mailing on Friday 05-DEC:

    Former Chrysler Chiefs Defend Deal As Merger Of Equals

    Former Chrysler chief Robert Eaton and James Holden testified in Delaware
    court Wednesday afternoon and Thursday that they did not think of the deal
    that brought Daimler-Benz and Chrysler together in 1998 as a "takeover."

    The testimony surprised and frustrated lawyers for billionaire financier
    Kirk Kerkorian, a former Chrysler shareholder, who has brought a $3 billion
    suit against DaimlerChrysler alleging German management, especially chairman
    Juergen Schrempp, hoodwinked Chrysler shareholders into approving a merger
    that was really a takeover. "I don't believe that Mr. Schrempp has ever take
    control of the company," Eaton testified in response to questions by an
    incredulous Terry Christensen, lawyer for Kerkorian. Eaton also testified,
    though, that the Financial Times article in which Schrempp implied he never
    intended Chrysler to be anything but an operating unit, made him angry. "If
    he said that, he was after control of Chrysler," Eaton said. "Obviously
    there wouldn't have been a business agreement put together. Chrysler was not
    for sale."

    ....

    Former Chrysler CEO James Holden who succeeded Eaton as head of Chrysler,
    and who was sales and marketing chief when the "merger" took place in 1998,
    said he still views the deal as a merger and told the Judge that Chrysler
    may not have survived the recent economic downturn without the deep pockets
    of Daimler-Benz. ...

    ***

    I think it's really amazing that Eaton and Holden are still defending the
    deal, in light of Eaton's assertion that the deal wouldn't have been put
    together if they had realized Schrempp was after control of Chrysler, or the
    part where Holden is claiming that Chrysler would've tanked if it weren't
    for Daimler's 'deep pockets'. At best the latter is pure speculation made
    by somebody who was ousted before the economic downturn really began, at
    worst it's revisionist history.

    .. --Geoff
     
    Geoff, Dec 5, 2003
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  3. Lloyd Parker

    Mike Hall Guest

    It seems to me that US people are upset because Chrysler came under the
    control of a German company.. thats how some felt in Sweden as their auto
    industry was bought up by US companies, and how Jaguar and Aston Martin felt
    in the UK about the Ford takeover.. live with it.. some Chrysler products
    have benefitted from the use of Mercedes technolgy and parts.. re the Jeep
    lineup (and I am a Jeep owner myself), many feel that Chrysler (pre
    takeover) have done nothing for the original AMC models.. GM are axing the
    Oldsmobile name as of next year, and the Camaro is a victim too.. when
    models become stale, somebody has to do something.. leaving model ranges as
    they are with little or no change reults in what happened in the UK..
    foreign competition wiped the mainstream makers out..
     
    Mike Hall, Dec 5, 2003
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  4. Ah, but that's not how business operates, modern business anyway. That
    isn't what
    happened in the UK.

    Today it's all about empire building and creating monopolies. You see when
    you have
    a market that only has about 3-4 major suppliers in it, the suppliers have
    such a large
    economy of scale going that a tiny producer cannot manufacture anywhere
    close to the
    cost of manufacture for the 3-4 large suppliers. The large suppliers in
    turn when there's
    that few of them, they all have a large enough chunk of the market to make a
    pile
    of money without attempting to steal market from the others. So it's to
    none of their
    interest's to initiate a price war, and while they don't actually overtly
    collude with
    each other, they all set prices similar to each other.

    So today what goes on is these large businesses will look at a small market
    like
    the UK and they will use the huge revenue they are getting elsewhere to go
    in and
    dump product, acquire smaller producers, etc. in short do whatever it takes
    to
    eliminate all but 3-4 suppliers. Then once that happens all of the
    remaining suppliers
    jack up their prices and use the revenue from this to go elewhere and repeat
    the
    process.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Dec 7, 2003
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  5. Lloyd Parker

    Geoff Guest

    I think it's really amazing that Eaton and Holden are still defending the
    ....who are testifying that they weren't well informed.
    --Geoff
     
    Geoff, Dec 9, 2003
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