Ford takes a dive, DC will be #2 soon

The banks do some strange things, as do investors.
It wouldn't be the first time a smaller cap company took over a larger
one.
Often the cash in the taken over company is the target that helps pay
for the takeover.
Anyway it isn't going to happen, too many consumers would throw up at
such an ugly takeover.

On Toyota they have a great product mix, a car or truck covering a large
percentage of the retail market.

 

wow, great post ! that put trollbob in his place but good !

 

http://groups.google.com/group/rec....8a94970e61f/a75ed41891a99d91#a75ed41891a99d91


Then explain why you were saying you owned a Cadillac in this other
thread link above- all of a sudden, you're a GM man.

You're an automotive chamleon that wannabees all the other cars, but
actually owns and drives a 1978 Honda.

 

Forward all Charlie Nudo troll posts, including headers, to:



Include a small preface about his previous troll activities. They
will now ban his and
accounts.

 

I'm sure that Mr. Putney, by now, knows that with friends like Charlie
Nudo, one hasn't much need for enemies!

Don't worry, Noodles...your SSI check will be coming after the first,
and you can get some more meds. Oh, and don't let your getting booted
out of rec.guns bother you so much! You're a troll, and that's what
happens to trolls like you. Suck it up!

 

nice SHOT, Bill...that's gonna leave a scar !

on the Chrysler/Caddy wannabee that really drives a ' 78 Honda shitbox

 

What's a "full size truck"?

One of these?
http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/con...c/trucks/home/products/new_trucks/actros.html

Didn't know GM made any of them.

Europe's biggest truck maker is Mercedes-Benz. Would not surprise me if
they were the global number one if one took their other brands into account
in the USA.

Furthermore, I doubt GM is significant in India (though I would be glad to
be stood corrected).

DAS

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When including DC's Dodge line, Daimler Chrysler is the world's
biggest builder of trucks in the light and medium duty catagories.

Sales in India, according to Automotive News, are in the HUNDREDS of
units. So much for Nudo's "GM is #1!"

 

I actually predicted Kodak's problems to some friends about 10 years
ago. I also predicted AT&T's demise to some fellow engineers in the
power supply component business, but I'm not sure if that actually came
to pass since I'm retired now. AT&T has (or used to) have a serious
culture problem where they apparently believed they were more important
than the customer.

This culture thing is a killer for corporations. Some corporations
become a lot like individuals with bad habits that they cannot
overcome. Changing CEOs doesn't help and laying off workers doesn't
help and pep talks don't help. Nothing seems to help.

I was extremely disappointed in the way that HP quality went down hill
under Carly Fiorina. At one time I was wondering if they were going to
make it in the computer business. They appear to be doing very well now
though. I'm not sure if it's because they got rid of Fiorina or because
she wasn't there long enough to completely destroy HP's culture of
quality products or what.

 

I put in more than 20 years at the "old" AT&T, and you are spot on.
They could get away with it before Divestiture and Computer Inquiry
II, but once they were split up and had to compete, their attitude of
self-importance in New Jersey did indeed kill them off, aided by the
selection of a completely incompetent CEO, Bob Allen. Once Allen
completely screwed up the works at headquarters, it was impossible for
Armstrong to try to put the pieces back together again, and the
gobbling-up by SBC was inevitable. We ALMOST lost the whole shebang
to the Japs! NEC was seriously considering a hostile takeover of AT&T
back when their common stock was hovering around $3/share and before
they got rid of Allen.

In the AT&T case, what happened was that their "corporate culture"
gave top brass and middle management a sense of invincibility that
was, of course, false. A good example of this was the horrible
AT&T/Olivetti disaster in the PC business with their PC 6300. AT&T
took a really mediocre product from a shady business partner, then had
their computer guys at the Labs make the bus and peripherals
non-standard to ensure that end users would have to come back to AT&T
for parts and peripherals. After all, Bob Allen reasoned (he ran
ATTIS back in those days), we're AT&T...WE set the standards!
WRONG...IBM had already set the standards for the PC and
everyone...except AT&T...knew that adhering to them meant
compatibility, which translated into sales. The same people, led by
Allen, also came up with the laughable AT&T "UNIX PC," the
much-maligned 7300, or 3B1. All-in-one box with a huge footprint and
captive keyboard, non-standard drives, you name it...everything with
the "UNIX PC" was just plain wrong. Magnify these two major gaffes by
every product and service AT&T was connected with back in those days,
and you see why AT&T under Allen and the old "Bell Head culture" sank
so badly.

Another US corporate icon that almost "ate it" due to "culture" and an
ingrained way of doing things (and obligatory on-topic material):
Chrysler Corporation before Iacocca. What saved them were two things:
The Democrats in Congress and Jimmy Carter, and Iacocca knowing what
did work and didn't work at Ford, and when he saw that Chrysler was
doing everything that didn't work, he started fixing it. What Iacocca
saw was a company with strong engineering but a "back office" that was
run similar to how FoMoCo was run prior to WW II...a disaster. Fixing
their financial arm and doing away with habitual bad business and
sales practices (like the notorious "car bank" that Daimler Chrysler
seems to be slipping back into) saved the company and allowed Chrysler
to pay back the US taxpayers, right to the penny. Iacocca also knew
that getting new ideas and models to market was paramount to survival,
so the most lasting thing he probably did was demand that he build the
Belvidere Design Center, which can do the quickest turnout from idea
to car on the showroom floor of any carmaker in the world. DC saw
this up front, and much of the new Euro model development is done here
at Belvidere.

Fiorina was the root cause of HP's near collapse. She took a
respected metrics and printer company and tried to turn it into a
Wal-Mart for PCs. The culture laid down by Messrs. Hewlett and
Packard prevailed and she was kicked to the curb, kicking and
screaming the whole way. She easily will go down in history as one of
the "bottom 10 worst CEOs" in US corporate history. Right on her
heels will have to be another chick CEO, Pat Russo at Lucent, as big a
loser as there ever was, and a direct product of Bob Allen's
destruction of Western Electric in the '70s. Another one that'll soon
be shown to be grossly incompetent: Meg Whitman of eBay, who seem
completely oblivious to eBay's huge fraud complicity problem and the
importance of the Tiffany lawsuit..

 

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/content/apr2006/bw20060428_541921.htm

APRIL 28, 2006
Autos
By Charles Dubow
Best Pickups 2006
Gas prices may slow sales but consumers have never had better trucks to
buy


What's clear is that, at least as far as the auto makers go, there's no
dilemma here. As long as they can make money selling big trucks, they
will continue to build them. In fact, for the first quarter of 2006,
Ford and GM sold far more big trucks than they did small trucks. The
Ford F-150 series, still the best-selling truck in the U.S., notched a
healthy 5.5% increase, the third consecutive month of gains according
to the company (see BW Online, 4/19/06, "America's Favorite Pickup").

What's interesting to note is that the number of big pickups sold in
the first quarter (538,262) dwarfed the number of small trucks
(140,527), but that in the latter category, the Japanese were dominant,
selling nearly twice as many small trucks as Ford and GM combined. In
fact, while Toyota and Nissan have both developed a large truck
entrant, Honda has not. Nor have they come out with a range of models
and variations, such as the $52,710 Dodge Ram SRT 10 or the $37,300
Ford F-150 King Ranch, seeming to understand that their best chance of
success lies in remaining small and waiting for the big trucks to go
extinct.

Pickup Sales: First Quarter 2006Company Q1 2006 Sales
Ford Motor 225,777
General Motors 215,242
DaimlerChrysler 109,394
Toyota Motor 73,632
Nissan 41,101
Honda Motor 13,643

Source: Automotive News

 

Motor Trend's truck of the year is a HONDA!

Charlie equates quality with quantity. He picks a McDonalds hamburger
over a nice grilled steak because McDonalds sold 6 billion burgers so
they must be the best!

How's that beat up Saturn Wagon running?

 

ROFL! He's mutating!

 

That is because the US manufacturers all came from the Old Northwest
(great lakes) and in that area of the country the snow is very bad and so
everyone salts the roads, and the cars all rust out quickly. It's a
different
mentality. That doesen't happen on the West Coast nor does it happen in
Japan, either. The folks that run car manufacturers in the US all have
blinders
on.

That really isn't actually what is going on or what the real problem is.
People always claim quality is why the Japanese are ahead but this
is nothing more than repetition of a clever advertising campaign.

The simple, real, fundamental problem is that it costs more for GM
to build a car than it costs Toyota to build a car. If Toyota and GM were
to swap designs tomorrow, and build each other's cars, Toyota would
still kick the crap out of GM.

And, why is this? Well, GM claims it's all that health care costs
for it's pensioners. But the real truth is that the UAW over the
years has fought every attempt to roboticize auto manufacturing,
thus leaving the US manufacturers with old technology in manufacturing,
what requires a lot of human assembly line people.

Here's a great article that discusses this:

http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=11781

What is going on today with places like the Chrysler Belvidere Ill
assembly plant, where the entire body shop is robotic, is what Toyota
and the Japanese automakers have been doing for years. GM isn't
doing this, because to do this means fewer autoworkers, and the
UAW won't stand for this.

People simply don't understand how fundamental the change in
modern manufacturing has become with the introduction of computers.
Consistent quality in manufacturing is a side benefit to removing
the human beings from the manufacturing loop, but the real benefit is
reduced cost to manufacture.

Ted

 

Honda doesn't build a truck. I'm not sure what the Ridgeline is... but
its NOT a truck.

 

It's also selling worse than the Nissan Frontier and that's NOT good.
Automotive News speculates that Honda will drop their "truck" line in
mid '07 due to low sales.

 

I get it, everyone else is wrong and you're right.

With this logic, this has to be Charlie Nudo using yet another email
address.

 

No, its just that you and you're alter-egos that keep posting all this
crap have just wandered into a Chrysler group.

Honda sucks. Almost as much as all you sock puppets.

 

Oh, so that's what makes it not a truck. I thought for a minute you had
some valid reason and knew something that other people didn't.

Sure they do, that's why they have such high resale value, especially
compared to ANYTHING from the big 2.

So, you're Charlie or just a fan of overweight fools?

 

I AM CHARLIE NUDO! No wait he is or maybe he is ? Maybe Bill Putzy
is ! I cant tell anymore- I AM NUDO THE SCHIZOPHRENIC !!!