Ford takes a dive, DC will be #2 soon

More projection from our mentally ill chew toy, Charlie Nudo.

I do not "type from a book," that's YOUR bag, Noodles.

I haven't worked on a Pontiac V8 in over 30 years. I just remembered
the two behind the timing sprocket...as they'd leak all the time and
make a mess.

What an idiot. It was in a joking context..."coulda been
worser...shoulda been gooder."

Hey, moron...that's NOT a "grammatical error," and if it was any error
at all, it'd be a lexicographical error...but you can't even spell nor
understand that.

Exactly. When writing for idiots like you, vulgarism is the only
thing that captures your attention...that, and a baseball bat to the
skull.

NONE of the UC campuses are "free"...never have been. And UCLA is
considered one of the top universities in the country, but you
wouldn't know that, either...you barely made it through high school,
as the record shows.

Any idiots can "make" parts. It takes an engineer and brain to make
them work properly.

No, I have none of Edison's lamp invetions in my den. I have
Steinmetz' flourescent tubes, as I like to conserve power.

More projection from a paranoid delusional psychotic. Projection is
one of their most oft-used defense mechanisms. Anyone with even a
semester of psych will recognize this immediately.

Noodles, I've crushed you, and you're flailing and flopping around
like a landed fish. At least have enough dignity to throw your
computer in the lake...or shoot yourself...or something constructive.

 

DeserTBoB wrote:
snipping for flowers

Then we must add Albert Einstein and the third unsung hero, the LED,
the CD, most things, even the TV, we use today came from his early
articles. It's not obvious but it's true and generally ignored, until
now, this post. Whoppee!

The picture I liked was the three together, Einstein, Tesla, and
Steinmetz.

We can't short Edison. He sure over-compensated by not being a
classical brain genius but getting things done even though he could not
sleep or hear properly. Now that is greatness.

One nice thing about Edison. If he had won with his DC initially, we
would have probably a very inefficient electrical distribution system,
but it would be much safer. DC burns, AC kills much quicker and at much
lower voltages and currents, especially currents since the heart is
very vulnerable to certain AC currents.

And the brain too. Did I ever tell you about my experiment with just 1
milliamp of 10 AC volts? Don't do this at home kids, you can fry brain
cells with that miniscule current under certain conditions...

I like your knowledge. I am learning about Steinmetz. I did not know he
was the light behind Edison and Edison was the light behind GE. So much
data and so little time and such a small head I have.

Did you know in World War II that GE sold engines to the USA and to our
enemies, the Germans? They sure covered all their bets. Other companies
did too, like IBM. But that was far more sinister. Okay, I gotta do
some work.

 

....all eyeing each other with suspicion. Classic.

Well, DC IS part of the US long-haul distribution system, notably that
of the Los Angeles DWP, which pioneered the use of ultra high voltage
DC transmission lines in the late 1960s. However, due to the cost and
size of the rectifier and inverter plants on either end of the DC
line, the line length had to be very long (at least 750 to 1000 miles)
in order for the line to be cost effective and to provide line loss
savings over the same length of standard 3 phase line. In the
original design, about 50% of the generated power was lost in both
rectification and inversion at the ends of the line, the theory being
that if the line is long enough, the savings of inductive losses on
the line itself if AC will be more than the losses at the plants on
either end.

There are two that I know of...the DC intertie with Grand Coulee Dam
that runs up through the Owens Valley, and then up through Nevada
before veering west to hit the DWP's rectifying plant near the dam in
eastern Washington state,, and one to supplement the DWP's original AC
lines from Hoover Dam built in 1941, a route that had two more 437KV
lines added in later years. The later Hoover DC line, built in the
'70s, used less expensive and more efficient gear for rectification,
thus making the shorter haul cost effective. I believe there's a
third DC line that DWP is using now, but I don't know where the
generating end terminus is located. Lately, I've heard that DWP
engineers are working with ASEA-Brown Boveri in Europe on a new
rectifier design that will save 70% power loss over those currently in
use. Should that come to pass, I'd expect all the old 3 phase lines
in the far flung DWP network to be replaced with DC. Many have been
in place since the '40s, and, while still serviceable, are nearing
capacity.

At very high voltages, DC is better than AC for long haul transmission
because reactive shunt loadings, both with the other two conductors in
a 3 phase line, as well as with the ground, are eliminated. The only
factors in DC transmission are resistance and arcing protection from
the pylon. However, until the technology appeared to be able to both
rectify and then invert voltages as high at 500KV to 1 MV, DC
transmission was impractical at low, safer distribution voltages. DC
lines are also cheaper to construct, since the pylons carry one less
leg, they can be a simple "T" affair rather than any number of 3 phase
pylons, including American Bridge Company's 90° rotated base, "Felix
the Cat" pylons designed for the Hoover-Los Angeles line in 1941.
American Bridge designed all of LADWP's steel pylon models up until
their exiting the business.

Who originally proposed the ultra high voltage DC system? Steinmetz
at GE, in the '30s, after his work in inductive coupling in power
lines showed that losses on long AC lines were much higher than
originally thought. For a view of an early "high tension" line that
loses a huge amount of its transmitted power due to the legs being too
close to the ground, one only has to take a trip up the Owens Valley,
where the original 1915 Southern Sierras Company 115 KV line runs from
Highgrove, CA to Bishop, where a number of hydroelectric plants, all
built around 1905, feed a central up-transforming station for
transmission to Southern California. This line for years carried the
bulk of power that was used in Riverside and San Bernardino counties.
The short towers don't provide enough clearance between ground and the
phase legs to keep inductive losses in check and Southern California
Edison, who inherited the Southern Sierras Hydroelectric Project when
they bought out California Electric Power in 1959, has tried to
ameliorate the problem by installing "stilt poles" in the middle of
some spans that come perilously close to the ground without them.

True story about this line: My father-in-law, back in the 1950s, was
the chief engineer for California Interstate Telephone Company, which
provided telephone service to the great eastern California expanse of
desert that no one else wanted. The company itself was a "spin off"
from California Electric Power, which then owned the Southern Sierras
line through a buyout of SSPC in 1927. In 1958, "Cal-Interstate"
built a new, open wire toll connection line from Ridgecrest, CA 10
miles to Inyokern, CA, to provide better toll access for residents and
businesses which used the Inyokern central office. The line ran
underneath the aforementioned Southern Sierras line at a point not far
from US 395. All went well...for a few months...until summer arrived,
and high temperatures in the 100s, along with maximum loading of power
from the hydroelectric project up north, caused the ancient steel clad
copper core cables on the Southern Sierras line to sag
alarmingly...enough, in fact, to provide an arcing path from the
lowest phases of the SS line to the new Cal-Interstate telephone lines
below! The arc blew the distribution frame cabinet, located at the
Inyokern central office, clear across the building, ruining all
equipment in its path, and incinerated all associated entrance link
cabling, effectively ending all telephone service around Inyokern for
a period of two weeks. Cal-Interstate rebuilt the line
immediately...underground! Now, at the exact spot this happened in
1958, there are a set of "stilt poles" to prevent such sag from
occurring again.

Dear Reynolds:

This kind of knowledge doesn't come from "standard reference books."
It comes from having an engineering degree from a good university and
working in the field and in related fields for years. Now, let's see
if you even have the brain horsepower to read down this far.

 

OK - so you'll see this when Nudo replies to it.

Tell us about Bobby Kennedy being in many of the McCarthy hearings at
McCarthy's side - in fact much of the reference file footage you used to
see on TV news and documentaries on the hearings showed Bobby sitting
right behind McCarthy, whispering in his ear (advising). Yet, somehow
over the years, someone (gee - I wonder who) has seen to it that all
that footage has disappeared, and other footage (sans Bobby) has been
substituted for the previously used stock footage.

Oh - and you forgot to answer my other question:
While you're tearing down people with human frailties but who did
wonderful things for mankind, name one positive thing you've ever done
for anybody. Or are you someone with all the frailties but absolutely
none of the virtues? (That last one's a rhetorical question - hint:
That means an answer would be unnecessary since it is obvious.)

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

Just keep telling yourself that most people do not have your level of
"brain horsepower". I'm sure it makes you feel less insecure about the
fact that nobody actually likes you.

 

Congratulations! You read the post!

I couldn't care less if certain people "like" me or not. The only
thing that matters is accomplishing something, and of that I'd done a
good deal.

Your post about making sure the parking brake was off made me snicker,
as it's all too true. One day, I saw a local bumpkin wanging the big
rear drums on his pickup with a maul. I asked him what the hell he
was doing, and the response was, "Damned drums will NOT come off!"
Looked in the cab...parking brake was on. Now, the funny part. I
told him I was going to pull the brake release, and he yells, "Don't
DO that! The truck is on a slope!" Mind you, the rear axle is up on
jack stands. So, I pulled it anyway...one of the drums fell off onto
the ground. I walked away laughing while a hail of obscenties were
hurled my way.

 

Did I pass some kind of test? What do I win besides your approval, and
why would I even want that? Your arrogance is awe inspiring.

I wonder what would happen if DesertBob and Daniel Stern were locked in
a room together for a week. Who would win the inevitable argument, and
which one would get bored to death first?

 

good call now that i think of it. they were not smiling not that
Steinmetz or Tesla was ever photographed smiling. but they did look
unhappy like a bad family portrait. suspicious?

1000 miles is a tad long. just 1000 miles of 1000000 volts DC and
that's end to end with not using the electricity in-between? whew.

what does the rectifier and inverter look like?

a capacitors about 20 stories tall or something?

enough PCB's to float the USA for the transformers back then?

an inverter for 1,000,000 VDC is a problem. it used to be a problem for
120 AC out of 12 VDC. i gather they get what? a pure sine wave? or a
step wave? and i thought i had problems. so Steinmetz sparked that,
interesting.

about your story of the electric burning up the telephone service.
reminds me of Tesla when he set up in Kansas? he was generating so much
electric that the ground was sparking said some visitors. he would sit
there with his huge generator reading a book while all around crackling
of electricity. it spooked the tourists for sure.

he was trying to send electricity over the air? he never was able to do
that? to send it without wires?

strange. i was told now that if you hold your arms a meter or yard
apart, there's about 30 volts between them because of all the radio
waves and what not. is that true?

or are they converting something?

i used to measure the milligauss or microteslas coming off high energy
wires caused by the electromagnetic 60 Hz radiation. never could get
the damn flourescent bulb to light. there i was, waving this
flourescent bulb under the high tension wires. don't even want to think
what the neighbors thought. SCIENCE I says to myself, science, a la Mr.
Wizard.

 

You hit the nail there- keep in mind this DB character is age 50 and
never had any kids of his own. Was shooting blanks his entire life.
His wife recently divorced him. So now he lives alone in a shithole
rowhouse, on a dead end street. His claim to fame is a "phone guy" for
Bell or AT&T. Well problem is, all that work is now outsourced to
outside contractors- so he LOST HIS JOB. He obviously took it pretty
hard, because he ended up in mental hospital. So now he gets out and
is on some lame-ass SSI benefit package, considered "disabled"- but not
in the physical sense- he's MENTALLY disabled. Notice how he posted
previously a while back, about taking a 318 Mopar motor all apart in
the chassis, looking for an overheating problem. The car is a 1986.
His other car is a 1978 Honda. Does this sound like a successful,
gainfully employed person ? No, it isn't. Especially in California,
where there's plenty of work. So now he has a myspace.com page looking
for women with "big plumbing"- is that supposed to be funny ? No woman
with any self respect would answer that call- qualified or not.

Boob "thinks" he's superior to everyone, but just ask him what major he
took in UCLA- we're still waiting- did he even attend ?? He tried to
pass himself off as a Viet Nam vet once before- until I pointed out
that the war was over in 1974- while he was still in high school.

He once talked about a "son", until it was disclosed it was a stepson.

He'll constantly change his story to suit the latest revelations about
his true mental condition. He's on Usenet because quite frankly, HE
HAS NO OTHER LIFE- Usenet IS his life. The more you answer him, the
more he likes it- and has something to do and a purpose. See ??

Hence the repeated warnings that were posted, not to reply to him. By
answering him and replying to him, it fuels his purpose to ruin your
group further. DB has been through Ebay already, and had 2 of his own
usernames banned for this same type of harassment. He's the type of
person you'd avoid on the street, ugly in both appearance and
personality.

 

They didn't "nationalize" the industrial base, the Big Three simply
took the huge, profitable defense contracts, and also had NATIONAL
PRIDE and PATRIOTISM, and everyone kicked in and won the war.

So now, to repay that effort, you go out and buy a fucking JAPANESE
CAR.

What does that say about you ?

Your ANTI-AMERICAN, plain and simple.

 

How the **** would you know ?? Your parents were living in a hole in
Mexico at the time. While my grandfathers, uncles, aunts, and rest of
kin were fighting and being decorated in WWI- WWII- Korea- Viet Nam

You need to close the liberal history book, and reflect on your actual
ancestoral heritage and their contribution to past USA war efforts.

What did THEY do ?? YOUR ancestors did NOTHING. They snuck across the
border at night, and went on welfare.

 

What bullshit. The whole US industrial base was nationalized by
Congress and FDR. Of course, you can't read well, so history is lost
on you....Noodles.

Says I'm smarter than Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, for one thing.

What about your scofflaw attitude? Want me to start digging up some
posts about that?

 

Suuuure, they were, Noodles. Oh yeah...you never DID serve in the
military...did you?

8th and 15th Air Forces. C-47 piloting during Overload's "D-Day."
Where were your ginzo relative, Noodles? Baking bread in some kitchen
somewhere?

More rantings from a paranoid delusional colostomy bag.

 

LMAO! Oh yeah?

She's laughing at you right now, Noodles.

We don't have "rowhouses" out here. That's a Philadelphia thing.

What a fantastic delusion, Noodles! I know it's near the end of the
month and you're out of meds. Let's hope that you can make it until
your next SSI check comes in!

As usual, Noodles can't get his information right...because his mental
illness put him in a state of alternative reality.

More "projection" from a paranoid delusional who recently had his ass
handed back to him.

I came in here looking for tips about a strange overheating problem,
as the record shows. YOU came in here to disrupt and destroy yet
another news group, part of the reason you've had 14 Google Groups
acess account BANNED in the last month. That's fact...go ahead, try
to dispute it. I have ALL the documentation...not that anyone in here
cares at all, but it's fun to poke holes in a delusional colostomy bag
like yourself....Noodles.

 

Gee, Noodles...I'm German/Scot/Irish...how could anyone on either side
of my family be "living in a hole in Mexico?" They weren't...just yet
another product of your mental disability and psychosis.

Yeah, sure. I can see it now...all working as cooks, as most ginzos
did in the European Theater. Reason? They couldn't be trusted not to
run in battle, like the ginzos on the other side did every time there
was a battle.

 

GM has a total market cap of $17.32 Billion.
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=GM

Ford has a total market cap of $15.05 Billion
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=F

Daimler Chrysler has a total market cap of $50.96 Billion
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?ipage=qd&Symbol=DCX

Toyota has a total market cap of $173.5 Billion.
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=TM

GM, Ford and Daimler Chrysler put together are worth less than half of
what Toyota Motors is worth.

 

then how come GM, Ford, and Chrysler make 3x as many cars together, as
Toyota does

and GM has 80 billion $$ in the bank, and is still the largest corp. in
the world

you're looking at bookkeeping value- not actual value and size

you consider a Toyota a status symbol ?? that's a stretch...

 

No, they don't.

No, they don't.

No, he's not.

And you are a stench...the stench of a rotten brain.

 

You're claim that General Motors with a market cap of $17.32 Billion
could buy out Toyota Motors with a market cap of $173.5 Billion is
silly. I do, however, have to give your post some credit for
entertainment value.

On the subject of entertainment, by the way, where do you think GM
would get the money to buy out Toyota? Perhaps we can all get a few
more laughs out of this when you give your reply.

 

Trolls, especially stupid ones like Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, can be
a laugher at times. However, my only purpose dealing with him is to
push him into another one of his trademark psychotic rages so that
Google Groups will ban the last two of his 16 "sock puppet" accounts,
and . Perhaps,
when the time is right, you'd care to join the frey!.

What makes his delusional reponses so laughable is that Toyota Motor's
market capitalization is TEN TIMES that of GM, and they can do that
with even less worldwide production. As with Ford, GM management has
spun itself into a morass of self-importance, similar to those of
"old" AT&T, Sunbeam, Eastman Kodak, Cisco Systems, Tyco,
AOHell/Time-Warner and several other has-beens, as well as the
soon-to-start-collapsing GE. Charlie Nudo ("Noodles" to his enemies)
thinks that be altering reality for himself, bad things won't happen
to GM. Paranoid delusional psychotics do that a lot.

However, it's not just idiotic American management that's causitive,
although that's a big chunk of the problem. A bigger problem is that
the current administration and their lackeys have been putting
lipstick on what's basically a "pig" economy. Wages are down, same
store sales are down, all real indicators are that the house of cards
is starting to shake, rattle and roll, but the shills the US
electorate put in places of undeserved power keep croaking the mantra
that all is well...similar to Herbert Hoover in 1931 with his
"Prosperity is just around the corner!" slogan while he doled out
millions to fat cat owned corporations like the Pennsylvania Railroad
so they could indulge themselve even more while the country writhed in
the Great Depression.

As FDR proved a year later, chickens have a habit of coming home to
roost, and as Thomas Jefferson said, when things get horridly out of
hand as they are now, "the people have a habit of putting things to
rights."