Flex Fuel Jeep Wrangler

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by pmcc, Jul 1, 2008.

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    pmcc Guest

    Anybody know if there's any plans afoot to build a flex fuel
    Wrangler? I'd love to own one for use during the coming Buffalo
    winter, but the idea of giving OPEC more business is unappealing.
     
    pmcc, Jul 1, 2008
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    Lloyd Guest

    AFAIK, Chrysler's only flex fuel engine is the 3.3 V6, and it's only
    in the minivans. Given all their financial and product problems, I
    doubt that's going to change anytime soon.
     
    Lloyd, Jul 2, 2008
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    As of a few months ago, the 4.7 was also flex fuel.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jul 3, 2008
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    Steve Guest


    Oh heck no... For one thing, the 4.7 in the Aspen/Durango (and probably
    the pick-em-ups) is flex fuel. I think there's a flex-fuel 2.7 out there
    too, probably others.
     
    Steve, Jul 3, 2008
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    Lloyd Guest

    You're right!

    Chrysler also says the flex fuel engines are not available in the CA
    emissions states, including NY, where the original poster lived.

    Found a good site:

    http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/flexfuelvehicles.php
     
    Lloyd, Jul 3, 2008
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    Archet Guest

    Hello
    not only 3.3 l V6 but the 3.0 V6 too.
    Chrysler Town & Country Model Year 2006 and prior: E, G or 3
    Model Year 2007: E
    Model Year 2008: H


    I've a one and the 8th digit of VIN is 3

    Stéphane Thuillier
    France
     
    Archet, Jul 4, 2008
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    Josh S Guest

    I suggest you don't bother.
    You'll lose 25% of your power, while burning food.
    If not subsidized it will cost you more.
     
    Josh S, Jul 6, 2008
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    pmcc Guest

    That kind of talk is going around quite a bit. I wonder how much of
    it is planted by oil interests, at least initially. The fact is that
    it IS subsidized,so it won't cost me more - at least not in New York,
    where the gasoline taxes are hideous. As to burning food, the fact is
    that there's an ethanol plant near here, just outside of Medina, &
    what they use is field corn, not sweet corn. The byproducts are sold
    back to Orleans County farmers for cattle feed.

    Further, I might add that unless there's an existing market for
    ethanol, cellulosic ethanol won't be saleable once the technology is
    good enough to make it lower priced than ethanol made from corn
    starch. So the time to get your flex fuel car is now!
     
    pmcc, Jul 7, 2008
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Do you not see that a farmer has a choice of what to grow on a given
    acreage, and that if he chooses to grow field corn due to the false
    economy of subsidies and not grow sweet corn that he otherwise likely
    would be growing, that that is less acreage being used for sweet corn,
    the supply of sweet corn is thereby made scarcer, and it's price goes up
    accordingly?

    Is it such a huge leap of logic for you to see that obvious result that
    you have to have that pointed out to you?

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jul 7, 2008
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    rob Guest

    there's less acreage period, due to the fact farmers couldn't make a damn
    living at farming for years, so they sold their land for
    subdivisions.........
     
    rob, Jul 8, 2008
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    pmcc Guest

    Your logic is good, Bill, but the reality of it is that land is much
    underutilized. There is more forest in New York than there was a
    century ago, & if you hike through the woods in most parts of New York
    & Pennsylvania you can see much evidence of old farms among the
    trees. What's grown on a given acreage is either brush or fallow land
    treasury checks. It's much better to grow field corn for ethanol,
    subsidized or not. For all I know, your argument may be correct
    elsewhere, but the "we're burning food" stuff doesn't seem to dovetail
    with the visible facts, at least around these parts.
     
    pmcc, Jul 8, 2008
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