Fiat Engineering is Supreme

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by George Orwell, Apr 30, 2009.

  1. Fiat diesel engines don't use timing belts that can break or skip on their
    sprockets and instantly destroy the engine. Instead they rely on
    time-proven gear drive camshafts. That is just one of many examples of the
    Italian no-compromise approach to all things mechanical.

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    George Orwell, Apr 30, 2009
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    MoPar Man Guest

    Yes. NOISY gears, taken right from the middle ages. Da Vinci designed
    it for them.

    Truth is that they don't know how to make a belt that can last in those
    egg-beaters they make. And they haven't figured out chain and sprocket
    technology yet.
    Fiat.

    Fix It Again Tony.

    Their cars are too good and well-built to be sold in the USA I suppose.
     
    MoPar Man, May 1, 2009
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  3. Italian engineering looks good, even great, but the quality or detailed
    design....who knows?

    The mechanism of the remote-controlled electrically-opening drive gates in
    our little block is made in Italy by a company that appears to dominate the
    UK market for this sort of thing, and works fine.

    But for bigger, more complex machines? One evil tongue (not Italian)
    suggested this problem (great looks, poor engg) exists even in my field of
    certain pharmaceutical process machines, where one of the Seven Sisters is
    Italian. And a second, small competitor has some really bad design
    elements, though when you see their machines at exhibitions they look
    lovely.

    (About the process machines I am only commenting about detailed design
    features - I have heard nothing negative about reliability. Till recently I
    was selling Canadian-made machines.)

    DAS

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    Dori A Schmetterling, May 1, 2009
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Maybe you're saying that Fiat doesn't know how to make gears properly,
    but there is nothing inherently inferior about driving cams with gears -
    in fact it is the absolute superior bullet-proof method. Think of the
    cost savings over the life of a vehicle of not having to replace a
    timing belt (or chain if it is stupidly used to drive a water pump -
    which does wear out). And I don't think gears are any more noisy than a
    timing chain. People always say that the disadvantage of a timing chain
    is that they are noisy. As the owner of both 2.7L and 3.2L 2nd gen.
    Concordes I can attest that not only is my 2.7 (uses a timing chain)
    extremely quiet, it is quieter than the 3.2 (uses a timing belt).
     
    Bill Putney, May 1, 2009
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    Mark F Guest

    Ah, yes, the good old Fiat 124. Timing belt. Valves meeting
    pistons. Disposable car when that happens. Sigh..... /mark
     
    Mark F, May 2, 2009
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