Fiat Denies ChryCo Debt Assumption

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jim Higgins, Mar 20, 2009.

  1. Jim Higgins

    Jim Higgins Guest

    The flushing of Chrysler, Nardelli lies again

    Fiat Denies ChryCo Debt Assumption
    http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE52J25320090320

    Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:53am EDT

    By Gilles Castonguay

    MILAN (Reuters) - Italy's Fiat SpA (FIA.MI: Quote, Profile, Research,
    Stock Buzz) on Friday said it would not assume any debt from would-be
    partner and troubled carmaker Chrysler LLC CBS.UL, less than two weeks
    before Chrysler is to meet U.S. demands for a crucial loan.

    Fiat denied a statement by Chrysler that it would assume 35 percent of
    that company's debt to the U.S. government.

    "Fiat Group intends to make it absolutely clear that the proposed
    alliance will not entail the assumption of any current or future
    indebtedness of Chrysler," Fiat said in a statement.

    At about 1330 GMT (9:30 a.m. EDT), shares in Fiat, which is looking to
    form a partnership with Chrysler, were down 2.68 percent at 4.58 euros,
    while the DJ Stoxx auto index was down 1.06 percent. Fiat shares were
    earlier down more than 4 percent.

    A video message on Chrysler's media website on Thursday said Fiat would
    take on 35 percent of Chrysler's debt to the U.S. government, but would
    not receive any money from that pool.

    The percentage figure is the same as Fiat's planned equity stake in the
    No. 3 U.S. car maker.

    The partnership comes as the car industry is struck by the worst crisis
    in decades. It helps Fiat gain the scale it needs to stay profitable and
    Chrysler to stay in business.

    VIABLE CONCERN

    Chrysler has received a $4 billion emergency loan from the U.S.
    government and has requested another $5 billion.

    It has until March 31 to prove to the government that it can remain a
    viable concern and deserves the extra loan. Its partnership with Fiat
    depends on it getting that money.

    In a non-binding agreement, Fiat is to take a 35 percent stake in
    Chrysler in exchange for technology to make small cars as well as access
    to foreign markets.

    Fiat will not pay cash for the stake in Chrysler, which is 80.1 percent
    owned by Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity firm.

    Analysts expect Fiat to end up investing something in the partnership in
    the coming years.

    "Nothing is free in this world," said Arndt Ellinghorst at Credit Suisse.

    Commerzbank's Gregor Claussen said: "It will have to invest because
    Chrysler plants are not made for Fiat cars."

    Chrysler has said the partnership was worth up to $10 billion for
    Chrysler and could preserve 5,000 manufacturing jobs in North America.

    It has also said the combined purchasing budget of the two companies
    would be $80 billion.
     
    Jim Higgins, Mar 20, 2009
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    MoPar Man Guest

    Did Fiat think they were getting 35% of Chrysler for free?
    "in exchange for technology to make small cars"

    What - does Fiat have the patent on how to make small cars?

    Has Chrysler never made small cars?

    "as well as access to foreign markets"

    If Daimler couldn't help Chrysler access foreign markets, then what
    magic can a third-rung maker like Fiat do?

    The irony is that Chrysler's best foreign car sales ->IS<- in Italy.
    Doesn't seem like Chrysler needs help from Fiat to accomplish that.
    Cerebus will not give away 1/3 of Chrysler for nothing unless they can
    saddle Fiat with 1/3 of it's debts.
    If Fiat wants to sell their cars in north america, then why the ****
    don't they put their cars on cargo ships and dump them here like
    everyone else does? What's with all this pussy-footing around with
    Chrysler all about?
    Does their cash-flow support $80 billion in purchasing? It better,
    because they're not going to get any bank line-of-credit for that amount
    these days.
     
    MoPar Man, Mar 20, 2009
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    Mopar Man,

    It looks like you have identified Chrysler's problem! :)

    2007 Chrysler LLC revenues were $49B. 2009 revenues must be down 30+% (I am
    being conservative). Fiat's revenues were $8.1B for 4Q08. Using the best
    possible assumptions for both companies, the combined revenues can't be more
    than $66B. To get the purchased content, you'd need to remove the
    non-operating revenues, profit, and the labor and load.content of their
    vehicles.

    More seriously, perhaps the $80B purchased materials content figure that was
    quoted was a multi-year estimate?

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Mar 20, 2009
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