Engine oil cooler line replacement?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Lisa, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. Lisa

    Lisa Guest

    Hello folks,

    I got a 2001 Concorde with the 3.2 engine. It's got an engine oil cooler in
    it and the supply line that connects the cooler (upper radiator) to the
    control valve is leaking. Is this a hard thing to replace myself? Would it
    be wise for me to use an old line off of a used car? The new line is very
    expensive from Chrysler dealers!

    Any other comments or pointers on this is greatly appreciated Thank you.
     
    Lisa, Apr 22, 2008
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  2. Lisa

    Bob Shuman Guest

    Possibly the transmission fluid (not engine oil) cooler line? I've not
    replaced one on your model/year, but did so on an older LH body since it too
    was leaking. I bought the part at the dealer and the part was about $50.
    Installation was not too difficult. I figured any old part would likely be
    prone to the same issue. In addition, $50 just wasn't worth the effort of
    pulling it at a salvage yard.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Apr 22, 2008
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  3. Lisa

    Bill Putney Guest

    I think Bob may be right about it being the transmission cooler line.
    They have screw clamps on those lines - usually it's a matter of
    tightening the clamps back up rather than a hole in the line. (I own two
    2nd gen. Concordes.)

    That would cost $zero.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 22, 2008
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  4. Lisa

    Lisa Guest

    Thanks Bob.

    It is actually engine oil cooler lines. The transmission cooler lines or on
    the other side (left side of the radiator), the engine cooler line or on the
    right side of the radiator. I was at the dealer yesterday and they said it
    was engine oil and I said the same thing you said but they explained that
    some of these Concorde models came with an optional engine oil cooler. BTW,
    the wanted $480 to replace the 2 lines, I can't tell you what I said but
    you'd probably figure that out yourself.

    Thanks again.
     
    Lisa, Apr 23, 2008
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  5. Lisa

    Lisa Guest

    Bill, thank you too.

    As I explained to Bob, I have the optional engine oil cooler in my car and
    these are engine oil lines.
     
    Lisa, Apr 23, 2008
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  6. Where and how is it leaking? If this is a steel tube (which it really
    should be)
    and there is a crack or some such in the tubing itself, then take the tube
    off
    and take it to a radiator shop and have them braise the crack or hole.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Apr 23, 2008
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  7. Lisa

    maxpower Guest

    The lines you are referring to have to be replaced if they are leaking, They
    can not be fixed. When they leak, it is normally severe. I wouldn't pay more
    the 2.0hrs to have them installed

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Apr 23, 2008
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  8. Lisa

    Lisa Guest

    Max,

    I ordered the line yesterday, I am going to give it a shot myself..I think
    it is a straight forward replacement. Thanks.
     
    Lisa, Apr 23, 2008
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  9. Lisa

    Lisa Guest

    Ted,

    This line is part steel, part rubber and it is leaking right at the joint
    between the steel and rubber part, I don't think it could be fixed. It has
    to be replaced as Maxpower suggested. Thanks.
     
    Lisa, Apr 23, 2008
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  10. Lisa

    Bob AZ Guest

    Glen

    Do these lines appear on any other 2001 Chrysler vehicles? Like maybe
    my 2001 LHS?

    Thanks
    Bob AZ
     
    Bob AZ, Apr 24, 2008
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  11. Lisa

    maxpower Guest

    Bob, if you gave me the last 8 of your vin # I could tell you if your
    vehicle is equipped with an oil cooler

    Glenn
     
    maxpower, Apr 24, 2008
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  12. Lisa

    Bob AZ Guest

    Do these lines appear on any other 2001 Chrysler vehicles? Like maybe
    Glenn

    1H580394

    Thanks
    Bob AZ
     
    Bob AZ, Apr 24, 2008
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  13. Lisa

    maxpower Guest

    Glenn

    1H580394

    Thanks
    Bob

    Bob, It does not specify. If you did have it, you would see both lines
    running down the passenger side radiator. One line will go to the passenger
    side oil pan and the other to the oil filter adapter.

    Glenn
     
    maxpower, Apr 24, 2008
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  14. Ugh, what a stupid design. Running pressurized, hot engine oil through
    a flexible rubber line is just asking for trouble. It's bad enough doing it
    with power steering fluid but if a PS line bursts, your steering just gets
    more difficult. If this line bursts, unless you shut your engine down
    immediately, you spin a bearing.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Apr 25, 2008
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  15. Lisa

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're connecting from an engine, that of course moves around a little,
    to a rigid chassis-mounted cooler. Would there be fatigue problems with
    metal lines, even corrugated ones of affordable materials?

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 25, 2008
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  16. Lisa

    Ron Seiden Guest

    Correct answer would be to use braided stainless steel covered lines (like
    race cars use). Unfortunately, the companies are run by the bean counters,
    not the engineers...
     
    Ron Seiden, Apr 27, 2008
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  17. All of the old Ford cars that ran a C-4 used steel lines to connect
    the trans cooler to the trans, no flex line involved. In any case, since
    this oil cooler is an add-on option, the expense should not be an issue
    since the customer has to pay extra for it.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Apr 30, 2008
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  18. Lisa

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're obviously not an MBA! :)

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 30, 2008
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  19. Heh.

    Keep in mind that when the automakers cheapen down the add-on
    accessories, word gets out and people stop buying them. Of course,
    the temptation is great for the MBA's to find some way to cheapen
    down the design and in the past a lot of automakers have given in
    to temptation (Ford with it's disintegrating plastic intake manifolds,
    for example) but while they often get away with it on the required parts
    of the vehicle, more times than not when they do it to the accessories
    it burns them. For example the auto aftermarket radio industry
    wouldn't exist if automakers hadn't cut corners on car radios, and
    the radio is a very high margin and profitable accessory for an automaker.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 2, 2008
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