DRL's (again)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ken Weitzel, Oct 26, 2005.

  1. Ken Weitzel

    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    Hope I can ask another question without causing dissension again...

    Vehicle is 94 LHS, in every respect like new with the exception of
    no drl's. Mr Stern suggested a nice replacement, but I procrastinated
    like us old folks do, and they're still not fixed.

    However, next door neighbor brought home 4 modules from Bucks (junk
    yard) yesterday. Free. Remove them yourself, you get what you get.

    Plugged each of them into my car, tried them. Nothing from any of
    them. Tried moving the car; still nothing.

    Plugged each into one of my neighbor's cars - 91 or 92 smaller Dodge.
    Two of the four dead as a doornail, one lit up his high beams
    immediately, the other lit up as soon as the car moved.

    Don't know if they're supposed to be movement sensitive or not?
    And if so, does the module respond to the car speed sensor, or is the
    module itself motion sensitive?

    Checked, and found a fuse for drl's in the engine compartment fuse box;
    it's good, and there's 12v on it.

    Is there any other common fault that anyone could suggest?
    Perhaps I should mention that there's a 3rd party remote starter
    installed, if that's at all relevant.

    Thanks for any and all suggestions, and take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Oct 26, 2005
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  2. Some are, some aren't. What years/models did he pull the modules from?
    There are several variations that look/fit/plug in the same way, but
    aren't interchangeable.
    None of the modules is motion-sensitive, no.
    Dead high-beam filaments in both of your headlamp bulbs...?
    Oog. Those always cause "fun" (not!) electrical problems.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Oct 26, 2005
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  3. Ken Weitzel

    Ken Weitzel Guest


    Hi Daniel...

    Thanks for your reply; much appreciated.

    The headlights are fine... well, they work, anyway :)

    Just for the heck of it, I plugged all four of those freebie
    drl modules into my neighbors wife's 93 Spirit - all four worked
    fine. Confusing business, this is :)

    Watched another neighbor shuffling cars this evening... one is
    a brand spanking new Dodge (government) truck. It was turning
    on and off its drl's when it went into/out of gear.

    So, I just may have one shot left. Mine was at the dealer's
    last week for two recalls... the driver seat sticking, and more
    important, the gearshift moves without a key, AND it starts in
    any gear. They fixed the seat, but ordered parts for the shift
    problem. Called today, parts are in, and appointment is for
    Tuesday morning.

    A real long shot, but maybe...

    And one more, if I may. This remote starter has no identification
    on it; just four buttons. If I were to put up a pic of the remote,
    is it possible that any of you could identify it so I could try to
    get a manual?

    Thanks, and take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Oct 27, 2005
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  4. Yep, I am fairly certain your '94 doesn't activate the DRLs unless the
    car's in gear. If your car starts in any gear, it's possible the fix for
    that problem will also bring the DRLs back online. Lucky you, then you'll
    have cruddy DRLs *and* cruddy headlights!
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Oct 27, 2005
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  5. Ken Weitzel

    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi Daniel...

    Just an update... Winnipeg Dodge Chrysler finished the recall today...
    the shifter one. They replaced a push rod and a shifter assy according
    to the N/C invoice.

    Feels a bit safer now, at least you need the key to shift it out of
    park.. BUT it still starts in any gear!! And the drl's don't come
    on.

    Beginning to suspect that maybe the start in any gear part may be
    related to the remote starter, but if anyone has any other ideas,
    I'd be grateful to hear them. And I'd still appreciate it if
    anyone knowledgable in these remote starters would look at a
    pic of this one and let me know who the maker is?

    On the other hand, picked it up after dark, decided to take a little
    highway trip on the trans canada highway and have dinner. First highway
    trip, first after dark trip. Fantastic ride, smooth comfortable, quiet.
    On cruise at 90 kph (54 mph) the instanteous mpg readout showed 32 miles
    per US gallon, which is unbelievable. Enjoyed it :)

    Take care,

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Nov 2, 2005
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  6. Me, I would've left it be. I *despise* faux-safety "nanny" features like
    this, and I've driven a great many vehicles with no such shift interlocks
    in perfect safety for many, many years and miles and kilometres. But I
    think I remember your saying you've primarily owned GM cars, which helps
    explain why you felt naked without a shift interlock! ;-)
    www.webelectricproducts.com is a single click away ;-)
    Fully believable on this end...
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Nov 2, 2005
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  7. Ken Weitzel

    Guest Guest

    Having installed several remote starters, I can't see how a half
    competent installer could cause the neutral start interlock to be
    bypassed by the installation of a remote starter - but then there are
    a lot of TOTALLY incompetent installers around who , I suppose, could
    screw up an installation badly enough to surprise anyone.

    Only other likely cause is a defective or bypassed switch (bypassed
    why??)
     
    Guest, Nov 2, 2005
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  8. Ken Weitzel

    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    Finally got to the bottom of this - the starter relay (in the engine
    compartment fuse box) has been bypassed.

    Nothing I do to the shifter in the car will make the ground side
    (going to the transmission) be grounded.

    Now I have to find the actual switch. Anyone know where that
    switch is physically located?

    Thanks, and take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Nov 2, 2005
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