Dodge Nitro

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by DeserTBoB, Oct 28, 2006.

  1. DeserTBoB

    DeserTBoB Guest

    What is it?? Looks like an overgrown Scion breadbox with a Dakota
    grille.
     
    DeserTBoB, Oct 28, 2006
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    Marcus Guest

    It's essentially a Jeep Liberty with new body panels. So at least we're
    talking about a serious offroad-capable breadbox with 260 hp.
     
    Marcus, Oct 28, 2006
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    Joe Guest

    Not only that, the styling will almost certainly be a hit. I would have to
    say the breadbox look has sold pretty well, although I think it looks pretty
    silly. To me the Nitro is the best of the milktrucks so far.

    Oh, dang it - I can't believe I'm posting in a Desert bob thread! Gaaaaa!
     
    Joe, Oct 29, 2006
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  4. Gets a ho-hum write-up in today's Sunday Times, the UK's largest-selling
    quality Sunday paper:

    http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12929-2424687,00.html

    (Text at bottom for convenience.)

    DAS

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    Dodge Nitro
    Redneck looks for a place in the sun






    Take a long look at this, the new Dodge Nitro. Whatever you may
    think of its looks - and I find it rather fetching - it is a car that people
    will at least notice. Except they won't yet, as the Nitro doesn't go on sale
    here until next summer and hasn't yet made its debut even in its native
    America.
    How is it, then, that I've just driven one through southern
    California from San Diego to Palm Springs and didn't get so much as a second
    glance? That's because in America the bestselling "car" is a vast pick-up
    truck, so if your set of wheels isn't the size of a mobile home, you're
    always going to struggle with road presence. SUVs are to the American
    car-buying public what the Toyota Corolla is to the rest of the world: so
    common and unremarkable that none of us can remember when we last saw one.

    But in Britain, or so its importers are hoping, things will be
    different. Here the Nitro will sell against cars like the Hyundai Santa Fe
    and Kia Sorento. In a market where one Ford hatchback or another has been
    the staple seller for at least two decades, I suspect the Nitro is going to
    be as conspicuous here as it is ignored at home.



    Just don't go thinking that those looks and the promising name
    mean there's huge power at your disposal. The car I drove was fitted with a
    3.7 litre V6 engine, and while that might sound impressive on paper, in
    reality it doesn't live up to expectations. Dodge Nitro? Flaccid more like.
    It comes with an old and horrid four-speed automatic gearbox and is the
    first six-cylinder motor I can recall since the last Ford Cortina's that
    sounds as if it's in pain when you rev it.

    The good news is that the majority of Nitros sold in the UK will
    be powered by a common-rail 2.8 litre diesel working in greater harmony with
    a five-speed auto. The bad news is that because Americans only understand
    the word "Diesel" when it is preceded by the name "Vin" they didn't have one
    for me to try.

    Of even greater concern to me than the asthmatic engine was the
    Nitro's ride and handling which, frankly, made me feel ill. The suspension
    was so soft and incapable of controlling the car's natural desire to heave,
    pitch and roll that it provided one more reason to add to the regrets I had
    about watching the movie Poseidon on the flight over. But worry not, says
    Daimler-Chrysler, the suspension settings had been configured to reflect the
    fact that there are no corners in America. Cars destined for Europe will
    apparently have settings similar to the "Performance" suspension that I also
    tried. With these the car is transformed: the stiffer springs and dampers
    not only made it handle properly, the ride was also improved almost beyond
    recognition.

    Not that I enjoyed driving the Nitro even with proper
    suspension, but then I never enjoyed driving the Hyundai Santa Fe with which
    the Nitro will go head to head. I expect customers will feel the same way
    about the Nitro in nine months or so. It lacks the Hyundai's third row of
    seats and its second row won't slide, recline or remove, but there is
    excellent headroom and legroom all round, and a vast boot.


    Model Dodge Nitro 3.7

    Engine type 3700cc, six cylinders

    Power/Torque 210bhp @ 5200rpm
    235 lb ft @ 4000rpm

    Transmission Four-speed automatic

    Fuel/CO² Figures not available

    Performance -60mph: 10sec
    Top speed: 121mph

    Price Less than £20,000

    Verdict Cool looking, poor driving, but interesting

    Rating

    Release Date Summer 2007






    The car's interior reveals smart, simple instruments, sensibly
    arranged controls and some sense of design cohesion. I just hope the awful
    fit and finish of much of the trim reflect the fact that I was driving
    pre-production prototypes.

    Driving it so long before it goes on sale means there is much
    about the Nitro we still don't know - most notably the extent to which the
    diesel engine will improve it. Nor do we know what equipment it will carry
    or even how much it will cost. All I can tell you is that Dodge plans to put
    the car on sale "with a decent level of standard equipment for less than
    £20,000".

    At that level, which is less than the cheapest of the
    forthcoming Land Rover Freelanders, it should find a space. It certainly
    offers a lot of metal for your money and an all-American authenticity with
    which to combat the imageless Korean brands at which it's aimed.

    THE OPPOSITION

    Model Hyundai Santa Fe £20,995
    For Three rows of seats, refined, good performance
    Against Ride quality, interior appearance, lack of image


    Model Kia Sorento £19,995
    For Spacious, recently updated, good value
    Against No third row seating, not a coveted marque
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Oct 29, 2006
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    Some O Guest

    Another ugly monster from Chrysler!
    Surprisingly (I'm a conservative senior) when I went into my dealer's
    show room last week to look at the new Sebring, the salesman insisted I
    get in a Nitro first. Perhaps he thought being a box it would suite my
    conservative taste.
    It's a high step in and out (I'm 5'-11"), the seating position is good,
    but this truck probably can't handle two sets of golf clubs across the
    back. The Sebring has adequate trunk for me.

    When I got out of the thing and looked at it from the front side the
    salesman wanted my opinion my first reaction was: "too high for me and
    it looks funny".

    Trying to interest me, who said I'm interested in the new Sebring,
    illustrates the problem they are having getting buyers for their
    monsters. Of course it is Halloween!

    I don't expect it will interest the same buyers who buy the similar
    looking Honda Element- middle aged and older women, much to Honda's
    surprise.
     
    Some O, Oct 31, 2006
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    DeserTBoB Guest

    No, that means they had a "spiff" running on Nitro sales that day.
    They think they're "safe" in such things as SUVs, although data from
    NHTSB paints a completely different picture. If you examine Honda's
    marketing, they're targeting middle aged divorced women with such
    puffery as more cup holders and other inconsequential features that
    these broads seem to think are more important than a good drive train,
    safety or durability.

    A recent multi-car pileup on a freeway near here illustrates this
    alarming misconception well. Cars involved were a 300M, a Chevy
    Malibu sedan and a newish Suburban. No one was seriously injured in
    the two cars, but there were serious injuries and one fatality in the
    Suburban, which rolled. Of course, truck-based SUVs aren't bound by
    the same safety or emissions requirements as are cars....that's why
    the Big 3 loves them so much.

    The "boxiest" box of them all, the Scion whateveritis, has a strange
    demographic trend, as well. Older men seem to be buying them now,
    when the original buyers were almost exclusively males aged 18-24.
    Personally, I think they're laughable...as aerodynamic as a brick, I'm
    sure their highway mileage isn't all that great in reality, either,
    despite Toyota's hype.
     
    DeserTBoB, Oct 31, 2006
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