disabling abs

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mdmajestic, Jun 6, 2007.

  1. mdmajestic

    mdmajestic Guest

    I have a 2002 Dodge, Durango with (allwall) rear abs system. And in my
    opinion the worst design ever.

    *I need in know how to disable this system to have standard braking.
    :eek: *

    I don't want a system the allows the front wheels to lockup while the
    rear wheels (power wheels) to continue going. The steering control is
    gone and still being propelled forward---- not good nor is it safe.
    :nono:

    Thank you
     
    mdmajestic, Jun 6, 2007
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  2. mdmajestic

    Bill Putney Guest

    I have no experience with the Durango, but in general, without ABS and
    the truck unloaded, if you're in a situation where you're locking up
    your front wheels, your rear wheels will *definitely* be locked up. In
    fact, on wet roads, this phenomenon is so exagerated that it can be
    unsafe in normal (non-panic) stopping.

    The whole idea of putting ABS on a pickup truck is to keep it as
    manageable as possible in a panic stop under all (highly variable)
    conditions: Wet pavement, unloaded being the absolute worst-case
    condition (for rear wheel lockup); dry pavement, partially loaded being
    the best-case condition.

    I don't agree with your reasoning. If for nothing else, I can't imagine
    a situation in which you're simultaneously jamming on the brakes *and*
    the accelerator! That is faulty reasoning.

    I have an older pickup truck without ABS, and believe me - when the road
    is wet (and no load in the bed), it doesn't take much braking at all to
    lock the rear wheels up - and that is nowhere near panic-stop braking.
    I have considered putting manually controllable valves in the rear brake
    lines to completely disable the rear brakes when the roads are wet.

    Having ABS on pickup trucks makes a *lot* of sense.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 7, 2007
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  3. Ye,s if that is the infamous bendix 10 abs that has the permanent warranty
    on it. Is there a warning label on the brake booster about 10,000 psi of
    pressure and not to fool with anything? If so, then yep, you have it.
    People have done it - you have to gut the braking system and get a bunch of
    parts from a wrecker from a non-abs car of the same model. Someone put
    up a website somewhere, you can google it. It's non-trivial and there isn't
    going to be a mechanic you will find that would touch it due to the
    liability.
    When that system is operating normally that doesen't happen. The key
    words are "operating normally" which often, they don't.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 7, 2007
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  4. mdmajestic

    Bill Putney Guest

    So, with that system, there is a credible situation in which the front
    wheels would be locked up and the rear wheels would still be getting
    torque from the engine?

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 8, 2007
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  5. mdmajestic

    Steve Guest

    Ummm... a 2002 DURANGO? With rear-only ABS? I've never heard of such a
    thing.
     
    Steve, Jun 10, 2007
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    philthy Guest

    very common
     
    philthy, Jun 10, 2007
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  7. mdmajestic

    Steve Guest

    Wow. I thought we'd gotten beyond that in about 1992...
     
    Steve, Jun 11, 2007
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  8. mdmajestic

    L.G.R. Guest

    Hi.
    I din't get the begening of your conversation but my ABS light in the
    control panel is on on a 98 Voyager. What appened?
    Thank you.
    L.G.R.
     
    L.G.R., Jun 16, 2007
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