Daimler & Chrysler

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Moon Guy, Aug 16, 2005.

  1. Moon Guy

    Bill Putney Guest

    Perhaps you are correct. It could be that The Sarnoff Institute simply
    developed the interlace scheme and signal format (and electronic
    techniques to generate and decode same) to be used as the standard
    system for commercial broadcast/receiving in the U.S.

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Aug 19, 2005
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  2. Moon Guy

    Bill Putney Guest

    Oops - I had it backwards. The U.S. TV standards were developed in the
    RCA Labs, which was later (when it was bought by GE) renamed The David
    Sarnoff Laboratories in honor of the man considered the greatest U.S. TV
    pioneer who worked in the RCA Labs.

    Waxing nostalgic here, but in the late 80's/early 90's, I worked on
    Shuttle/Space Station project in which we need to incorporate ruggedized
    LCD screens into the shuttle for remote manual control of a robotic arm.
    Problem was, the only people even close to making such a thing were
    the Japanese. A consortium of U.S. companies, cashing in on the
    prestigious name of the Sarnoff Labs in TV technology, set up research
    operations under the name of the David Sarnoff Labs for the purpose of
    trying to catch up to and supplant the Japanese in LCD technology. Our
    dilemma was that it was clear that the U.S. consortium was wasting a lot
    of money and getting nowhere fast, yet, politically, it was absolutely
    forbidden for us to incorporate Japanese technology into the U.S. space
    program.

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Aug 19, 2005
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  3. Your thinking the film camera which Edison was involved in.

    A TV receiver isn't useful unless there's a transmitter, and a transmitter
    isn't useful
    unless theres content to feed it. If you look at the history of TV you will
    find
    that the large corporations had to dump a huge amount of money into building
    an
    infrastructure of broadcast stations and antennas and such, for years before
    any
    significant number of sets existed. And if they hadn't done that, TV would
    have
    remained a lab curiosity. Quite different from movies, which didn't require
    anywhere
    near that kind of infrastructure to be instantly desired as a consumer
    product.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 19, 2005
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  4. Ah, if your that individual I think you would be asking yourself that if
    you were that valuable to them, why on earth would they let you leave
    once they got ahold of you. A guilded cage is still a cage. Besides,
    if your that key a person, there's going to be plenty of other places
    offering you equally high amounts of money.

    I would think that someone who couldn't comprehend all this in advance
    probably wouldn't be possessing of the brain capacity that would
    represent any kind of threat to the US in the scientific advancement
    realm.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 19, 2005
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  5. Moon Guy

    Bill Putney Guest

    Not in the technology stabilized world - only where the ones who are
    behind and need to catch up - they will offer a bit more to make giant
    leaps rather than incremental improvements for simply keeping up with
    competition.
    Maybe only in the movies - the mad scientist types (a character like the
    guy who played Newman in Seinfeld played in Jurasic Park). I suspect
    their are plenty of technical geniuses who have very blind spots in
    real-life areas of their brains - autistics, idiot-savants...

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Aug 19, 2005
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  6. Moon Guy

    WVK Guest

    As a result of massive investment in fiber optic communucation networks,
    it is no longer necessary to relocate to work (according to thois article):

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/health/article-page.html?res=9F06E7D8153FF930A35757C0A9639C8B63

    wvk
     
    WVK, Aug 19, 2005
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  7. I don't think I am, though my terminology might have been 'inaccurate' in
    your view. (I also don't think in the early days "a huge amount of money"
    was dumped on infrastructure.)

    Call it the transmission of images, or the remote reproduction of a
    'picture' of reality. As another poster already mentioned, John Logie Baird
    is the man.

    However, there were other independent developers at work, too.

    http://www.mztv.com/newframe.asp?content=http://www.mztv.com/baird.html

    http://www.mztv.com/mz.asp

    Baird's initial mechanical TV system was dropped by the BBC in 1937,
    however, in favour of Marconi's.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/baird_logie.shtml

    Baird just pipped Charles Jenkins at the post:
    http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl_television_timeline.htm


    DAS

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    Dori A Schmetterling, Aug 19, 2005
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  8. Ah, right. As I work in that industry I'll tell you the article is dead
    wrong.

    Sure, there's a lot of comm capacity. The problem isn't technological,
    never has been. The problem is the ossified thinking of most managers
    in business and those business owners. They do not know how to manage
    people by setting goals and checking up to see if those are met. Instead
    they manage by wandering around and looking at what people are doing.
    If the employee is talking on the phone, instant messaging their friends,
    whatever, then to the manager they aren't productive. If the employee is
    quietly intent on working, they are productive. It doesen't matter that the
    first employee might be bringing in 2 million a year in sales, and the
    second employee is working on his doctoral thesis and hasn't done a lick
    of real work all week long.

    You can't do that kind of managing when the employees are all 500
    to 1000 miles away behind the end of a fiber pipe.

    All day long I see customers who are small businesses who can barely
    afford to pay their leases on really crude, low quality office space, tell
    me that there's no way they could afford to pay for employee DSL
    connections so the employee can work at home, even when the
    employee wants to, let alone decent office Internet connections and
    VPN server hardware. Despite the fact that doing so would allow
    them to move into quarters an eighth of the size and save 5 times the
    money all that network infrastructure would cost.

    And I see these same small and medium sized businesses go out and
    hire street-level system admin consultants at $50 an hour, who don't
    know anything about what they are doing, and who charge a minimum
    of an hours time every time you call them, and charge travel time as
    well. However when you propose an app server located at a colocate
    were you scrap all their desktops and slap down thin clients (like
    winterms) in place of that, and the app server is up 24x7 and has
    an experienced staff watching it, they nak those proposals since
    the hourly rate of people who actually know what they are doing is
    $100 per - but no travel time billing, and 90% of the problems are
    fixed within an hour, vs 20% of the problems the street level guy
    can't get fixed in a half-day.

    You can site exhaustive study after exhaustive study that shows
    that businesses that are primariarly offices with partition farms
    in them, could go 80-90% virtual, and save a ton of money. But
    most of the business owners out there and managers will fight
    you tooth and nail because they do not really understand how
    their business works, and going virtual actually requires them to
    start measuring employees by the real work they do, rather than
    the perception that the employee is working.

    And of course, the other catch-22 is that the handful of businesses
    and people that do understand all of this, these are the ones who
    are really successful, and shit money out of their asses, and so can
    afford to indulge their fancy of building a big office campus (like
    Microsoft's in Redmond) to impress the plebians, and frankly can
    afford to not go virtual. But most of the businesses that don't
    understand going virtual are the ones scratching around
    who can barely keep the bills paid, who really need the money
    that going virtual would give them.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 20, 2005
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  9. Moon Guy

    WVK Guest

    Excellent points. Some years ago I read that a office cubicle in a high
    rise costs about $15,000 a year. Add to that the costs of driving,
    parking, office acceptable clothing, constructing highway and rail
    systems and other infrastructure, traffic congestion, pollution, waste
    of time commuting etc., etc. to support of an obsolete way of doing
    business. IMO a staggering amount of waste.

    It is interesting to note that the discussion of how to achieve energy
    independence almost never includes the virtual workplace.

    Question: What will it take to change the paradigm?
     
    WVK, Aug 20, 2005
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  10. Moon Guy

    Bill Putney Guest

    Interesting links - got them book marked now. Thanks!

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Aug 20, 2005
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  11. I think that there is a lot of truth in in this idea, but overlooked are
    some very important factors why remote working isn't more widespread.

    An office is a social place, where people get together, where people perhaps
    even motivate each other, where people also bounce ideas off each other,
    etc. Many people need other people near them during the working day.

    In many cases meetings need to be in person, something no amount of fancy
    videoconferencing equipment can replace.

    DAS

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    Dori A Schmetterling, Aug 20, 2005
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