Daimler-Chrysler Divorce Negotiations Underway

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Comments4u, Feb 24, 2007.

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    TBone Guest

    That is a load of crap. They only apply if you know how to use it and most
    don't. Just about any idiot can drive a FWD in the snow which is simply not
    the case with RWD and it IS easier to pull a car threw slippery conditions
    than it is to push it, especially when most of the weight is in the front.
     
    TBone, Feb 25, 2007
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    TBone Guest

    That is because the superior handling characteristics of the FWD give people
    a false sense of security and cause them to make stupid decisions. A RWD
    vehicle gives far more warning that you are pushing it to hard.
     
    TBone, Feb 25, 2007
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    TBone Guest

     
    TBone, Feb 25, 2007
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    Roy Guest

    Do ya think weight distribution might come into play?
     
    Roy, Feb 25, 2007
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    TBone Guest


    Not really. How would front to back weight distribution cause more
    rollovers and unless you are talking about a mid-engine car, the difference
    in weight distribution between a the FWD and RWD is not all that huge
    anyway. The way I see it, a FWD vehicle is just easier to drive at high
    speeds which means people with much less skill are driving faster than ever
    and when something goes wrong, they don't have the skills to recover and the
    higher speeds make it easier to roll the car.
     
    TBone, Feb 25, 2007
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    Roy Guest

    Okay.
     
    Roy, Feb 25, 2007
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    who Guest

    However with iDrive the BMW driver is very confused as to where to go.
     
    who, Feb 25, 2007
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    Some O Guest

    I had one too. Good car, but with snow tires not even close to my FWD
    cars with all season tires for snow travel.
     
    Some O, Feb 25, 2007
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    who Guest

    They follow.
    Come with me for a drive in the real snow driving we get in our western
    Canadian mountains and I'll teach you something about FWD.
     
    who, Feb 25, 2007
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    Just Facts Guest

    You need to get an oldie VW beetle. They were great in snow with RWD,
    but don't try to corner too fast and carry an ice scraper in your hand
    while you wear a gas mask.
     
    Just Facts, Feb 25, 2007
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    Some O Guest

    I agree, if they can get back some of those smart Chrysler execs who
    couldn't stand the DC direction for Chrysler and left.
    My fingers are crossed.
     
    Some O, Feb 25, 2007
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    TBone Guest

     
    TBone, Feb 25, 2007
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    miles Guest

    In conjunction with emission standards yes. In most other countries
    emissions aren't of such concern. Where gas is $6+/gallon consumer
    demand for fuel economy is what drives the industry to follow.
     
    miles, Feb 25, 2007
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    Some O Guest

    It's all in the cam timing. German local cars are timed for higher rpm
    torque, giving higher HP which is best at high speeds on the Autobahn.
    NA cars are setup for best operation at the slower road speeds here.
    Recent VVT advances give advantages at both low and high RPM.
    I don't find NA cars use more fuel than those I rent in the UK.
    My recent experience in England was a 2006 Escort SW stick shift that
    gave 36 mpg at 90% highway going 60 mph. I'm not sure what 4 cyl engine
    was in that Escort, but I suspect 1.6L.
    A few years ago we got 40 mpg with an Escort HB on the same driving.
    My wife's 2001 Sebring V6 2.7L 200 hp auto gives 35MPG
    and my 1995 Concord 3.3L 165HP auto gives 34MPG on 90% highway at 60 mph.
    I city driving the Escort would give the best mileage, followed by the
    Sebring then the Concord.

    That Escort SW at 60 mph was 3,000 rpm, my Concord at 1,900 rpm and my
    wife's Sebring at 2,200 rpm.
    Of course you should know which car gives the nicest quietest ride; the
    Concord of course, plus the Concord can easily out handle the other two.
     
    Some O, Feb 25, 2007
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    Some O Guest

    A van isn't a car, they handle poorly compared to a car, whether FWD or
    RWD.
    I once owned a RWD GMC long van I made into a camper. Even with the
    camper weight in the rear it was a sad joke in snow. Even with top notch
    snow tires it was a struggle getting up snowy hills that my Concord just
    walks up. How many times I had to back down a hill and take another run
    at it, very dangerous.
     
    Some O, Feb 25, 2007
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    miles Guest

    Where is here? In the USA the 300C outsells the Mercedes which is to be
    expected. However, sales are dropping in the USA for the 300C because
    its a car with little market but then so are other cars in its class.
     
    miles, Feb 25, 2007
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    Some O Guest

    Chrysler's dealer network alone is of great value.
    DC didn't take full advantage of it.

    My fear is some Chinese car company will and then all they will sell
    will be Chinese built cars.
    I'd rather buy a Honda or Toyota built in NA.
     
    Some O, Feb 25, 2007
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    Some O Guest

    Yes a good point on Honda being a good match with Chrysler.
    It just happens that the new Honda CR-V is at the top of my short list
    if my '95 Concord suddenly needs replacement.
     
    Some O, Feb 25, 2007
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    Some O Guest

    Nope not according to what our police in western Canada say.
    They also use big heavy RDW cars for most urban activity because as they
    say they often ram a car they are chasing and it usually is less
    expensive to repair a RWD car after this activity.
    I out of urban country areas our police usually use AWD & 4WD vehicles.
     
    Some O, Feb 25, 2007
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    Just Facts Guest

    So if that's the case I wonder why most of the vehicles I see off the
    road in winter conditions are RWD and 4WD?
     
    Just Facts, Feb 25, 2007
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